Value of: What is W. Nylander's realistic value?

[Romkey]

I keep seeing Leafs fans saying "not available", but if the Leafs get JT, who is the best D they could get for Willy? If it was up to me, I'd be sending Nylander + 2019 1st (possibly more?) to STL for Parayko and wouldn't hang up until STL accepted.

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[Gemel11]

Parayako isn’t worth that much is he?

 

[Rusty8719]

Ew, no.

 

[TheDoldrums]

You're not adding assets on top of Nylander for Parayko. That's overvaluing him.

 

[Romkey]

You're not adding assets on top of Nylander for Parayko. That's overvaluing him.

Maybe I do overvalue Parayko, but the Leafs need someone to play with Rielly. I like Nylander and would like to keep him, but if he goes towards securing a top RD then it's worth overpaying IMO. What would you think is fair value for Parayko?

 

[justafan22]

Nylander + 2nd for parayko

 

[bleedblue1223]

Nylander isn't worth Parayko. He's worth Ehlers or Teravainen until he proves he can be a full-time center and be closer to a Larkin value.

 

[Romkey]

Nylander isn't worth Parayko. He's worth Ehlers or Teravainen until he proves he can be a full-time center and be closer to a Larkin value.

Even with a 1st attached to him?

 

[LeafSteel]

Putting the cart before the horse here.

N.Y. lander is a core player here. Not even sure that if we can snag Tavares, that Nylander even then becomes expendable.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Even with a 1st attached to him?

Not sure about the value, but realistically, it's a trade we wouldn't do. I'd much prefer receive a player of Nylander's quality that is a guaranteed center than receive Nylander+1st. Nylander's value will rise quite a bit if he gets a full-time center opportunity and thrives.

 

[Killer Orcas]

You're not adding assets on top of Nylander for Parayko. That's overvaluing him.

I think your over valuing Nylander a top pairing RHD with size and mobility is worth more then Nylander and a late 1st. Nylander is not even a centre might become one as I know he has in past but currently in NHL he's a winger and sorry he's not near value of a 1 RHD. The 1st would be a 20-25 pick at best with Toronto trending up and certainly adding Parayko.

 

[Romkey]

Putting the cart before the horse here.

N.Y. lander is a core player here. Not even sure that if we can snag Tavares, that Nylander even then becomes expendable.

Ok but how do you lock him, Marner and Matthews down long term if you sign JT for 10M+? Of the three, losing Nylander would probably hurt the least. In a perfect world, the Leafs could have all 4

 

[TheDoldrums]

I think your over valuing Nylander a top pairing RHD with size and mobility is worth more then Nylander and a late 1st. Nylander is not even a centre might become one as I know he has in past but currently in NHL he's a winger and sorry he's not near value of a 1 RHD. The 1st would be a 20-25 pick at best with Toronto trending up and certainly adding Parayko.

I don't value Parayko as a top pairing RHD. Maybe one day. He hasn't performed that way yet.

 

[The Ugly Truth]

I keep seeing Leafs fans saying "not available", but if the Leafs get JT, who is the best D they could get for Willy? If it was up to me, I'd be sending Nylander + 2019 1st (possibly more?) to STL for Parayko and wouldn't hang up until STL accepted.

Nylander's value in the regular season or in the playoffs?

Scared Kitten Playoffs Nylander™ will get you a conditional 7th. Maybe. From Garth Snow. Or Mike Milbury.

 

[Romkey]

I don't value Parayko as a top pairing RHD. Maybe one day. He hasn't performed that way yet.

He's better than the next option.....Hainsey *shudders*

 

[7even]

Ok but how do you lock him, Marner and Matthews down long term if you sign JT for 10M+? Of the three, losing Nylander would probably hurt the least. In a perfect world, the Leafs could have all 4

This has been worked out ad nauseam. It's completely do-able at the cost of being able to add a marquee defenseman.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I keep seeing Leafs fans saying "not available", but if the Leafs get JT, who is the best D they could get for Willy? If it was up to me, I'd be sending Nylander + 2019 1st (possibly more?) to STL for Parayko and wouldn't hang up until STL accepted.

I'm a huge Parayko fan but you should look at his stats over the last two years before you offer Nylander + 1st.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Ok but how do you lock him, Marner and Matthews down long term if you sign JT for 10M+? Of the three, losing Nylander would probably hurt the least. In a perfect world, the Leafs could have all 4

If Leafs sign JT which I don't think they need but they could run all four this year and then trade one of Nylander or Marner next season. The cap would work for this year.

 

[The Ugly Truth]

Nylander isn't worth Parayko. He's worth Ehlers or Teravainen until he proves he can be a full-time center and be closer to a Larkin value.

Jets would pass on buttery soft Nylander.

 

[kindalaidback]

Nylander's value in the regular season or in the playoffs?

Scared Kitten Playoffs Nylander™ will get you a conditional 7th. Maybe. From Garth Snow. Or Mike Milbury.

thank god his playoff series against washingon was great, right?

 

[Killer Orcas]

I don't value Parayko as a top pairing RHD. Maybe one day. He hasn't performed that way yet.

He's stuck behind Alex Pietrangelo he certainly would be top pairing with no Alex.

 

[Romkey]

Ok there's lots of people telling me my evaluation of Nylander/Parayko is wrong. How about you do what the title says and give me a realistic value instead of just arguing about how bad Nylander is in the playoffs, or how Parayko isn't a #1.

 

[Liferleafer]

Nylander's value in the regular season or in the playoffs?

Scared Kitten Playoffs Nylander™ will get you a conditional 7th. Maybe. From Garth Snow. Or Mike Milbury.

Jeez...just because a guy doesn't want his face licked by a rat....don't hold it against him.

 

[Rubi]

I'd like to see the Flames put together a deal for Nylander. Toronto needs to improve their defense and we're blessed in that department.
Assuming that Mark Giordano, Noah Hanifin, and prospect Juuso Valimaki are untouchable, that leaves the following d-men (listed in order of value):

Travis Hamonic
TJ Brodie
Michael Stone
Rasmus Anderson
Brett Kulak
Oliver Kylington

 

[bleedblue1223]

Ok there's lots of people telling me my evaluation of Nylander/Parayko is wrong. How about you do what the title says and give me a realistic value instead of just arguing about how bad Nylander is in the playoffs, or how Parayko isn't a #1.

Hanifin?

Parayko level once he has a full-season at center.