steve141
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- Aug 13, 2009
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The 2009 HOH Top 100 list has Lafleur at 19th and Jagr at 23rd. I just don't see why we pick Lafleur over Jagr.
I can understand why some would pick Messier's or Clarke's "intangibles" and "leadership" over Jagr's, but Lafleur's?
They both came into the league on power house teams, and struggled with motivation as their teams got worse. They had comparable peaks, but Jagr had the better start and the better end to his career.
Both played 17 seasons. Here are their best point finishes:
Lafleur: 1,1,1,3,3,4.
Jagr: 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,5,6,8,9.
That is one huge difference!
In his highest scoring season Jagr outscored his closest team mate by 53%, and the second highest scorer in the league by 19%. In his highest scoring season Lafleur outscored his closest team mate by 28% and the second highest scorer in the league by 11%. I don't really see an argument for better regular season peak either.
Since Jagr had better regular season numbers during his peak, prime and career, the only thing left is to argue that Lafleur was better in the playoffs. The thing is that Jagr actually has a higher career PPG in the playoffs aswell, despite Lafleur playing in the highest scoring eras in hockey.
Please inform me why Lafleur is better?
I can understand why some would pick Messier's or Clarke's "intangibles" and "leadership" over Jagr's, but Lafleur's?
They both came into the league on power house teams, and struggled with motivation as their teams got worse. They had comparable peaks, but Jagr had the better start and the better end to his career.
Both played 17 seasons. Here are their best point finishes:
Lafleur: 1,1,1,3,3,4.
Jagr: 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,5,6,8,9.
That is one huge difference!
In his highest scoring season Jagr outscored his closest team mate by 53%, and the second highest scorer in the league by 19%. In his highest scoring season Lafleur outscored his closest team mate by 28% and the second highest scorer in the league by 11%. I don't really see an argument for better regular season peak either.
Since Jagr had better regular season numbers during his peak, prime and career, the only thing left is to argue that Lafleur was better in the playoffs. The thing is that Jagr actually has a higher career PPG in the playoffs aswell, despite Lafleur playing in the highest scoring eras in hockey.
Please inform me why Lafleur is better?
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