What are your hopes/expectations for crosby this season?
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PensPlz
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I hope he wins an Art Ross and leads this team to a Stanley Cup.
But I fully expect the KCD line to be reunited after injuries to all our key wingers.
But I fully expect the KCD line to be reunited after injuries to all our key wingers.
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I think both him and Malkin will flirt with 100 points. Then excuses will be made to not give them the Hart because of each other... Then the Hart will go to Benn or Seguin.
WayneSid9987
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Realistically: If healthy.
Top 2 for the Art Ross.
95-100 pts
Hart if he breaks 100 pts/only player to do so.
To put it in perspective. He almost won the AR last year with 5 less games played than the 2 above him, barely any skill on his wings(until Perron came), alot of slumps, with a poor PP.
Top 2 for the Art Ross.
95-100 pts
Hart if he breaks 100 pts/only player to do so.
To put it in perspective. He almost won the AR last year with 5 less games played than the 2 above him, barely any skill on his wings(until Perron came), alot of slumps, with a poor PP.
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Shady Machine
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Yeah probably.
plaidchuck
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Yeah this sounds reasonable if he faces the top pairings of other teams often. But then again he put up over 100 even with Bylsma giving him the top d matchups often.
Honestly, if everything goes right and him and Kessel gel, 100+pts for him and 80+ for Phil isn't unreasonable.
How the points break down? Meh. I couldn't care less if sid scores 1 goal and 99 assist's if Phil has 65 goals. Sure balance is better but as long as someone on the line is scoring and the other is setting up, I don't care who scores.
My two biggest hopes for the season are:
1) the defense isn't a huge liability. Just play decent smart hockey. No fancy stuff. Simple game.
2) we need, oh how we need, some injury luck this year. It's been 3 or 4 years straight of constant injuries. We need the team to stay healthy for a change.
If both those things happen, I don't see why we can't contend for the cup.
....in before shingles hits the dressing room
How the points break down? Meh. I couldn't care less if sid scores 1 goal and 99 assist's if Phil has 65 goals. Sure balance is better but as long as someone on the line is scoring and the other is setting up, I don't care who scores.
My two biggest hopes for the season are:
1) the defense isn't a huge liability. Just play decent smart hockey. No fancy stuff. Simple game.
2) we need, oh how we need, some injury luck this year. It's been 3 or 4 years straight of constant injuries. We need the team to stay healthy for a change.
If both those things happen, I don't see why we can't contend for the cup.
....in before shingles hits the dressing room
BlindWillyMcHurt
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Yeah... I'd say that's the most realistic expectation. Around 30 goals and 90 points. Which is likely enough to merit an Art Ross in this trash heap league. Having Kessel and improved offensive depth will help him but, I mean... you can only do so much when the entire league is bound and determined to drag the game (and the star players) into the muck.
Nobody asked but Malkin will be lucky to stay at a PPG and make it through 60ish games. I seriously doubt that he'll be "flirting" with 100 points. This isn't four years ago. Crosby maybe. Not Malkin.
Jaded-Fan
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The one thing that worries me a little is that Crosby's PPG total fell off some last year.
He always has been waaaay above everyone else, even in years when injured. Malkin was always second, but the gap was large between the two.
But last year he fell back to only 1.09 PPG. The year before he had been 1.30 PPG. The year before that 1.56 PPG. The year before that 1.68 PPG.
See the trend?
Kessel riding shotgun should help of course. And to be fair the trends in scoring for everyone have gone down each of those years, not just Crosby. By next year someone putting up 50 points likely wins the Art Ross Trophy. But still.
He always has been waaaay above everyone else, even in years when injured. Malkin was always second, but the gap was large between the two.
But last year he fell back to only 1.09 PPG. The year before he had been 1.30 PPG. The year before that 1.56 PPG. The year before that 1.68 PPG.
See the trend?
Kessel riding shotgun should help of course. And to be fair the trends in scoring for everyone have gone down each of those years, not just Crosby. By next year someone putting up 50 points likely wins the Art Ross Trophy. But still.
Ogrezilla
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The mumps absolutely hurt his production last year too. Not just him, but a lot of people around the league.
Sid should get at least one over all of his career highs...
52 Goals
87 Assists
It would be great to see him be the first to break the 130 point mark since Mario. He did 120 in his sophomore season and no one can say he has ever had more help than this year.
52 Goals
87 Assists
It would be great to see him be the first to break the 130 point mark since Mario. He did 120 in his sophomore season and no one can say he has ever had more help than this year.
Ogrezilla
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It was much easier to score in his sophomore season. Breaking 130 without a change in the way the game is called would be absolutely amazing. If scoring is similar to last year, 110 points would easily be more impressive than his 120 sophomore season.
BlindWillyMcHurt
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I wish I possessed even a 1/10th of some of this sweet, sweet optimism.
Look what direction the league has been trending. They love the parity. They love the idea of slowing the game down in a wrongheaded attempt to stem the tide of head injuries. This sounds tin-foil-hatty... but they want to basically drag everyone down onto the same mediocre plane.
Crosby is still the best in the league but he isn't going to be besting the majority of the field by 40-50 points. Come on. I WISH it were the mumps that somehow threw the entire league into sub-90-point-Art-Ross-winner disarray. But it wasn't.
Look what direction the league has been trending. They love the parity. They love the idea of slowing the game down in a wrongheaded attempt to stem the tide of head injuries. This sounds tin-foil-hatty... but they want to basically drag everyone down onto the same mediocre plane.
Crosby is still the best in the league but he isn't going to be besting the majority of the field by 40-50 points. Come on. I WISH it were the mumps that somehow threw the entire league into sub-90-point-Art-Ross-winner disarray. But it wasn't.
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100+ points and winning the art ross. Fair or not that is always my expectation for him as long as he's in his prime.
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Empoleon8771
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He played in very few games in his 1.68 PPG season and his 1.56 PPG season (22 and 36 respectively) and had injury/illness issues and a slumping team last year. It's extremely dishonest to not look at that stuff in context. He had an unsustainable PPG in 11-12 and 12-13 and dealt with the mumps and a heavily slumping team last year. His 13-14 season is what we should expect over a full season, like 35 goals and 105 points.
Hope: he doesn't get hurt seriously and plays at least 75 games in the regular season.
Hope: no one whose name begins with K and ends with unitz plays on the same line or PP unit, ever.
Expect: he'll flourish (provided he doesn't get hurt) if Kessel is on his line.
Expect: second hope will be dashed by game 5.
Hope: no one whose name begins with K and ends with unitz plays on the same line or PP unit, ever.
Expect: he'll flourish (provided he doesn't get hurt) if Kessel is on his line.
Expect: second hope will be dashed by game 5.
billybudd
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NBC isn't happy, though. Not. One. Bit. The playoffs did open up considerably after they saw the ratings and took their objections to Bettman. Ratings are money and the SC Playoff ratings were real, real, real bad. Bowling bad.
I think the NHL will have a little more scoring next year. Some token encouragement to call a few more stick fouls or something. It won't be enough, but it is what it is. If the ratings are still bad, next summer, you're going to start seeing more radical ideas to increase scoring being legitimately considered.
NHL is always 5 years late to do something about any given problem. I'd put us in year 3.
I think in some other thread I semi-jokingly said Kessel would only score 20 but would lead the league. At best, if there is any change in calls, it will last a couple weeks in October, and then we'll regress back to DPE 2.
BlindWillyMcHurt
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That all sounds reasonable (and I actually had you at least partly in mind while composing that post) but we still are going to be largely where we are next season. We've seen this fish, before. And somewhat recently, even. By the time the NHL decides it's time to do something about their mostly-**** product... it's going to be the likely twilight of Crosby's career. A shame.
You have put together several very good posts about why the league has largely found itself in this predicament. So you know as well as I do that it will take at least several more years (and executive hirings/firings. EDIT: And perhaps another lockout?) to get the wheels moving.
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