yay more 90's nostalgia, everything was great back then and everything sucks today...
What can you say, a lot of things get better with time, but not everything does.
A more fun list is obscure 90's goalies lol like Pat Jablonski, Darren Puppa, Rick Tabaracci, Trevor Kidd and a whole lot more...
when you put chris osgood and mike richter above the goalies of today that says it all
i would put 90's sitcoms and movies above today, everything else is the same or better
I’ll take the era with Andre “Red Light” Racicot.
when you put chris osgood and mike richter above the goalies of today that says it all
i would put 90's sitcoms and movies above today, everything else is the same or better
Is it hasek cuz hes so much better than the rest of them and just invented his own styleOne of these is not like the other
Not at all, it's the era I grew up watching the game in the most. The goalies from that era are certainly more memorable. But better? No. Even switching those guys out, we're still talking about an era where a guy in Cam Ward that for the most part is considered to be a disappointment right now would firmly be in place as one of the top 10 of that era, and in the conversation for #5 behind Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, and Belfour.I think you're under-rating Belfour Joseph and Richter while also forgetting guys like Potvin, Fuhr, Vanbriesbrook, Ranford etc.
Not at all, it's the era I grew up watching the game in the most. The goalies from that era are certainly more memorable. But better? No. Even switching those guys out, we're still talking about an era where a guy in Cam Ward that for the most part is considered to be a disappointment right now would firmly be in place as one of the top 10 of that era, and in the conversation for #5 behind Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, and Belfour.
Underrating Belfour and Joseph a bit. I think they compare favorably to say Lundquist and Luongo.Best for top end.
Certainly not better depth wise then this current era. The fact that you name Osgood is testament enough to that.
So, with prime Brodeur in both eras it's basically:
Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Joseph, Richter, Osgood, Hebert, Barrasso, Hextall
vs
Lundqvist, Price, Thomas, Luongo, Vokoun, Rask, Quick, Rinne, Crawford
top 2 is decidedly 90s, but after that is so far decidedly post-lockout that it's not even funny.
Not at all, it's the era I grew up watching the game in the most. The goalies from that era are certainly more memorable. But better? No. Even switching those guys out, we're still talking about an era where a guy in Cam Ward that for the most part is considered to be a disappointment right now would firmly be in place as one of the top 10 of that era, and in the conversation for #5 behind Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, and Belfour.
I doubt anyone thinks Osgood or Richter were better than today’s best goalies. They weren’t even the best goalies of the mid 90s.
That being said, Osgood had a .914 regular season with a .930 in the playoffs and narrowly missed a Conn Smythe... in 2008. He beat the Crosby/Malkin Pens (same guys who are two-time repeat champions and leading their playoff series as we speak) to post those numbers. I wouldn’t pretend that he couldn’t play in today’s league.
Mid 70s.
Dryden, Cheevers, Esposito, Parent, Vachon
In this century, he's 5th & 6th, about where I would figure. His biggest problem is his career stats are a bit lower than everyone around him on the list. Only one in the top 15 wins list since 2005 with below .910 career sv%.I would add that Ward is probably going to end up rated higher than a lot of people expect in THIS era. People might be shocked at where he finishes for his generation in terms of GP and wins.
cough....Tretiak...cough
Seriously speaking, all those tenders were peppered by USSR teams with goals because they didn't know "the butterfly" and simply stood in the net.
Like all other positions, goalies who entered the league circa 1985 were born the in the later stages of the Baby Boom era when the birth rate roughly doubled over what it was before and after. You had A LOT more Canadian boys playing hockey during the 1970s than you do today, not to mention that it was also the golden era of hockey in the USSR, and those boys played during an era when their respective govern
ments had just finished massive investments in both recreational sports and in national athletic teams. They enjoyed an environment in which pretty much any kid with athletic talent could play hockey to his heart's content at a relatively low price, and specifically goalies could learn the game at a far more reasonable price-point than young goalies today.
They were also coincidentally positioned to learn the position as young children in a stand-up heavy environment that emphasized reflexes and skating, and then as teenagers to experience the transition to a butterfly environment that emphasized positioning and flexibility.
No huge surprise that this environment consistently produced all-time great talents (Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Joseph, Fuhr and Barrasso on the early side, Brodeur on the late side)
Best for top end.
Certainly not better depth wise then this current era. The fact that you name Osgood is testament enough to that.
So, with prime Brodeur in both eras it's basically:
Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Joseph, Richter, Osgood, Hebert, Barrasso, Hextall
vs
Lundqvist, Price, Thomas, Luongo, Vokoun, Rask, Quick, Rinne, Crawford
top 2 is decidedly 90s, but after that is so far decidedly post-lockout that it's not even funny.
he only "beat" them because the whole team got out shot almost 2:1, he was clearly their weak link in 2008 but was better in 09
i'm not saying he couldn't play today, i'm saying there are tons of goalies today that are better
Is it hasek cuz hes so much better than the rest of them and just invented his own style
Roy gets credit for mainstreaming butterfly but that was actually around for a long time. Marty did both but his key was stickhandling. Hasek just reinvented the position