GDT: WCQF | Game 5 | Vancouver Canucks @ St. Louis Blues | Aug 19 | 7:30PM PST | SPAC

[Mr. Canucklehead]

WHEN: August 19th, 7:30PM PST
WHERE: Rogers Place, Edmonton, AB
TV: Sportsnet Pacific, NBCSN
RADIO: Sportsnet 650

Best-of-Seven Series Tied 2-2

Vancouver Canucks’ Starting Lineup (unconfirmed)

Boeser - Pettersson- Miller
Eriksson - Horvat - Pearson
Roussel - Sutter - Virtanen
Motte - Beagle - MacEwen

Edler - Stecher
Hughes - Tanev
Fantenberg - Benn

Markstrom

Canucks’ Top Scorers:
Quinn Hughes - 8GP, 1G, 8A, 9Pts
Elias Pettersson - 8GP, 4G, 5A, 9Pts
Bo Horvat - 8GP, 6G, 2A, 8Pts


St. Louis Blues’ Starting Lineup:

Schwarz - O’Reilly - Perron
Schenn - Bozak - Sundqvist
Sanford - Thomas - Blais
MacEachern - De La Rose - Kyrou

Gunnarsson - Pietrangelo
Scandella - Parayko
Faulk - Dunn

Allen

Blues’ Top Scorers:
Ryan O’Reilly - 7GP, 3G, 6A, 9Pts
David Perron - 7GP, 4G, 4A, 8Pts
Alex Pietrangelo - 7GP, 1G, 4A, 5Pts

OPERATION 19 WINS:

Win 1:


Win 2:


Win 3:


Win 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyCHZR4w-94

Win 5:
https://youtu.be/dWnuz68ImNU

Notes in Advance of Game 5:
Canucks F Micheal Ferland is unfit to play.
Canucks F Tyler Toffoli is unfit to play.
Canucks D Tyler Myers is unfit to play.


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[m9]

I know there is lots of other stuff going on this series, but the shift really comes down to 2 things for me.

1) The Canucks special teams advantage has gone away. Blues look much better on both the PP & PK.
2) We thought Bo Horvat was going full "Nashville Kesler", but it turns out ROR is doing that instead.

Time for Green to get some things figured out.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Don't see much changing here. Vancouver will be hard pressed to score as St Louis are keying in on the top guys. There is no need to even defend against Vancouvers bottom 6.

6-1 Blues.

 

[Bankerguy]

Toffoli and Myers would be useful here.

For the Canucks to win, they HAVE TO stop with the unforced errors. When our D has the puck in their own zone and they have a few seconds before the fore-checker is on him, he HAS to make a clean pass. Forwards HAVE to come back deep enough to support the D.
Passes sent poorly or received poorly in the defensive zone OR the neutral zone, i counted 50 last game...
This is what the Canucks CAN control
Second issue is losing puck battles against the boards. I dont expect them to be able to change this as the Blues are very good at this. HOWEVER, when we have them OUTNUMBERED in the puck battle you have to win it....no excuses. Last game i counted five times where we had the blues out numbered in a board battle and the blues came out with possession.... that is absolutely inexcusable.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I know there is lots of other stuff going on this series, but the shift really comes down to 2 things for me.

1) The Canucks special teams advantage has gone away. Blues look much better on both the PP & PK.
2) We thought Bo Horvat was going full "Nashville Kesler", but it turns out ROR is doing that instead.

Time for Green to get some things figured out.

I don’t think (hope) that our PP will be anemic for two games in a row. I do think the top unit needs to stop passing the puck around and to for the simple shot-rebound-crash the net type goals.

 

[Grub]

Must win game here... Would really be dissapointing if we go out like this after going on a 2-0 lead...

Story of the series would be playing Tyler Motte more than Pettersson and Miller.

 

[Samzilla]

Perhaps we could've won 1 of the last 2 games if binnington had stayed in net, but berube adjusted and green hasn't.

Won't be surprised if we lose game 5 too.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Far from over
The boys could use a shuffle of the deck, Gaudette in for sure, maybe move Boeser to Horvats line

I think the Canucks have allowed the pressure to get to them, it’s not like our skill and system ain’t up to snuff, but when the playoffs got going it’s obviously changed the confidence of this team, like a poster has stated earlier it’s all about unforced errors and that is the key, how many pucks were bobbled at the point, or pucks either lobbed out of the zone

Truthfully we don’t have the scoring depth to go deep in the playoffs but we can squeaked our another win or two, I’m going to go with Blues in 7 and I’m not at all disappointed in this season whatsoever

what we already knew.....Out bottom six is too expensive for what they do, our defense needs another top 4 stud

what we learned..... Hughes, Petey, Horvat, Miller, Marky can compete and Virtanen is NOT the playoff machine we thought he would be

let’s go

 

[Hansen]

Imagine if we had given Brogan Rafferty a look this season and could tell if he'd be able to step in and try to resuscitate our 2nd PP unit

 

[Hansen]

Teams gotta start calling Virtanen Jacob instead of Jake or something, shake him up

 

[BB06]

Canucks win the special teams battle and Canucks will win the series.

 

[Grumbler]

Either we somehow play significantly better, or we are done in 6 games.

 

[mathonwy]

If only Loui had been able to score on that turn around shot (or even hit the net), last nights game would have been different.

Loui tried his best.

 

[Samzilla]

If only Loui had been able to score on that turn around shot (or even hit the net), last nights game would have been different.

Loui tried his best.

"This isn't a try league, it's a get it done league"
-Willie D (paraphrasing)

 

[vanarchy]

The difference in depth between these two teams has become very, very apparent. The boys are either going to battle through it or learn a lesson.

Either way, I’m excited.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Well the first thing that needs to be done is get the PP back on track and destroy that 2nd unit.

Get some fresh legs in and shorten the minutes on the bottom 6.

 

[EpochLink]

Line up changes are needed, adjustments need to be made, we win.

now do it.

And no working out on game days no more.

 

[vanarchy]

Line up changes are needed, adjustments need to be made, we win.

now do it.

And no working out on game days no more.

I was hoping they would try line up changes yesterday. Now the situation is more dire and there is even more pressure on the young guns.

I hate being an armchair coach but I just do not understand Travis Green.

 

[brock hughes007]

For us to win ,we need more scoring from everyone besides JT Miller and Petty.Need to stay out of the penalty box,and we need a second unit powerplay that works...

 

[RussianRacket]

Boys need a reset. Game 3 they should have won but got utterly dominated last night.

Where has Horvat, Sutter, etc gone?

Time for Horvat to show his leadership.

I believe. Go Canucks.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

The 2016-17 Buffalo Sabres had Jack Eichel, Ryan O'Reilly, Evander Kane, Sam Reinhart, they had .920-level goaltending from Robin Lehner and Anders Nilsson ... and were the 4th worst team in the league. How does THAT happen.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Boys need a reset. Game 3 they should have won but got utterly dominated last night.

Where has Horvat, Sutter, etc gone?

Time for Horvat to show his leadership.

I believe. Go Canucks.

Horvat is still there but getting homed in on. Like JT Miller, Pete and Hughes.

St Louis has 0 respect for the bottom 6 or Loui Eriksson. They are getting room to distribute the puck or skate it in but there is just 0 skill in the bottom 6 to do anything impactful.

Good Canucks teams in the past had great secondary scoring. Big goals scored by Cooke, Klatt, Linden (later years), Torres, Lappiere, Hansen, Higgins. Most recently you had Bo Horvat doing some scoring in 2015.

You legit look down and see no hope in hell for the likes of Beagle, Sutter, Eriksson, Roussel, and Virtanen to do anything. Devoid of offensive skill or brains to process offense.

 

[EpochLink]

Time for Horvat to show his leadership.

His leadership is on display right now, needs to show up big.

 

[Fire Benning]

Tarasenko leaving the bubble

 

[m9]

I'm really interested in what the lineup looks like for Game 5. I know some people want Gaudette on the wing and that may be the answer long-term, but I don't think you can test that out in this situation.

The bottom six I would roll with is this:

Roussel-Gaudette-Virtanen
Motte-Beagle-Sutter

Use their zone starts accordingly through two periods, and then if you are either winning or losing in the final 10 minutes it's obvious which line takes a seat.