CapitalsCupReality
It’s Go Time!!
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“Game manager” because we’re so good at drafting QB’s that one of those is just going to materialize.
I definitely understand the hesitation but I think this is such a bad way to look at things. "I did thing A once and it didn't work so I should never do thing A again..." come on. Does that mean if you buy a stock and it goes down you never invest money again? I am confident in assuming that you don't live your life like that. And for the record, in my opinion 2012 was the best year this franchise has had in 30 years so I disagree it was an utter failure.The team tried the give up multiple high draft picks to secure a franchise QB with Griffin and it was an utter failure. That’s why I am hesitant. That, and the team has built a pretty solid core up front on defense. So with continued use of draft picks to fill out the defense the team could win on a consistent basis with a “game manager” at QB.
Would do this in a heartbeat. Matt "King Leonidis" Ioannidis (5th round pick, btw) was playing better than Payne and they're not going to be able to pay all of the DL in a few years anyway. And with Watson those future 1sts are likely in the 20s. And that's another consideration... people keep saying we're young and we have this window that's just opening so we shouldn't mortgage our future but it closes quickly. Look at Seattle -- they had a historically good defense but that only lasted a few years and the only reason they are not complete garbage now is because Russ is a superstar. The rest of that team except for a few players is total ass.Payne + 2 1sts + 2nd+4th....
You do realize that Deshaun Watson has simply proven to be better player than RG3 and the Rams still have Jared Goff, right? You do realize that the final 4 in the NFL features Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers and Allen? You do realize that in the last 4 years WFT has started Cousins, Smith, Johnson, Allen, Heineken, McCoy and Mark Freaking Sanchez?
4 years ... Need I go on to the previous 30?
There is more risk in starting duds and retreads at QB while we have that DL under contract.
You guys saw the Packers/Rams game, right? In this day and age the team with the better QB beats the team with the better D 9 out of 10 times.
Let’s say it’s 3 firsts for Watson. After that all you need to do is sign a FA WR and resign Scherff and the dishes are done for the off-season. Instead of 3 firsts over the next 3 years we’d have Watson and a Godwin type right away. We’d still have Chase Young and all those first rounders on the defensive line. We’d have a tremendous opportunity to have the best offense AND the best D in our division. We’d honestly be in position to make the playoffs the old fashioned way: by having a winning record and deserving to be there...
It genuinely boggles the mind that so many of you are against this...
I definitely understand the hesitation but I think this is such a bad way to look at things. "I did thing A once and it didn't work so I should never do thing A again..." come on. Does that mean if you buy a stock and it goes down you never invest money again? I am confident in assuming that you don't live your life like that. And for the record, in my opinion 2012 was the best year this franchise has had in 30 years so I disagree it was an utter failure.
Also, just so we're clear, everything we've tried to do to acquire a QB has been a failure. We've tried drafting high in the first round, tried drafting later in the first round, tried trading for veteran QBs with a track record of success elsewhere, tried slow-cooking mid or late round draft picks, tried signing young free agents, tried signing vet free agents... and none of it's worked. I mean, just look at this nauseating list.
Know what we haven't done yet? Tried trading for a young, bonafide star QB. I want them to go big because if you're going to fail, go down giving it your best shot. It's why I wanted Heinicke to start over Alex in the playoffs. Go down swinging if you must but at least try.
He hits well with later round picks as well. Jeremy Chin being one example. At the time I only looked at his first round record. Hurney does pretty good in the draft.True. However our new GM’s track record is that he really only “hits” well with said first round picks (and does hit well, from the record)