Wait, so we can't sign free agents until the deal is ratified, right?

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  1. Masao

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    Just wondering...
     
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    Until it is signed it is not an active agreement.
     
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    Right.
     
  4. The Mars Volchenkov

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    I wonder how many signings we'll see right away. There won't be much time until the season starts so I could see some signings on the first day or two. I bet a lot of teams are already negotiating.
     
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    Im sure we will see some, hopefully some minor trades also.

    IE The Lightning and Coyoties made two AHL trades this year and there were some speculation that the trades would become full NHL trades once the lockout was over.
     
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    I think there will also be a period of about 2 weeks where no one other than 2003 draftees can be signed so that the GMs and agents can go over the 600 page CBA.
     
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    Even though they can't sign players. you would think there is negotiating going on. Am I right?
     
  8. MojoJojo

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    Technically they cant, but I would be shocked if half the big UFA's werent signed before the ink was dry. The players and their agents have been negotiating and talking to the owners, feeling out the new CBA and trying to figure out how much the deal effects their bottom line.
     
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    And legally the lockout is still in place.

    The league won't lift it until the deal is ratified.

    It would actually be a violation of labor law for the employer (the teams) to have direct contact with an employee (the players) concerning employment (a free agent offer) while the employee is a member of a union which is still technically locked out.

    We're running out of chances to play labor law geeks here.
     
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    Isn't the deadline for Ovechkin to come over here July 20th (based on his contract)? Looks like the Caps may be out of luck.
     
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    Oh yeah... I have a feeling that the lockout's end will kill the Biz board.

    it was nice seeing you guys
     
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    But nothing stops the "bump into" ploy in the supermarket and something accidentally slipping out. Or a player casually talking to a friend of an exec with a team who happens to talk loudly in their office as the GM walks by.
     
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    I am guessing Monday Aug 1st FA season will begin.
     
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    With the upcoming implementation of this complicated new salary cap (and general CBA), I think there will be lots of talk here in the future. As well, we're going to be analyzing the success of this new CBA for years to come methinks...
     
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    i think i´ve read somewhere that teams and players (FAs) are not allowed to negotiate until this thing is ratified. i think the gms are using this week to go over the new cba so there will be signings right away. or do you think they don´t have any insight on the paper before it´s ratified ?? :dunno:
     
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    UFA signings won't begin until the 15th or so of August.
     
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    On what do you base this information???
     
  19. Masao

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    And, uh... ah... what happens if... if they vote against?
     
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    Kiss the NHL goodbye. :cry: :cry: :cry:

    I would bet everything I own that this thing gets signed though.
     
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    The Owners would crush the PA like a bug.
     
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    Good guess. That's the targeted date for the unrestricted free-agent frenzy and full effects of the new CBA to be in place. Ratification on Thursday July 21st, transition stuff between the 21st and the draft on July 30th, transition stuff being the buyout bonanza and signing 03 draftees. They'll likely rest up on July 31st and then, WHAMMO :eek: , as Pierre would say, let the (negotiating) games begin. At least that's the plan. These things are sometimes subject to change.
     
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    According to TSN, the GMs will see the CBA this week-end and get a crash course in it. So I guess after this weekend, they will start thinking about who they can afford, and who they can get rid of. We might start hearing rumors by Monday.

    Link: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=130363
     
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