Next year is when we judge whether or not Colorado's rebuild "worked". They did make the playoffs last year and is right in the thick of things this year. They should be a lock for the playoffs and a possible contender next year if Makar is as good as advertised. Not to mention a ton of cap space and a top pick from Ottawa.
Confirmed Trade: [VGK/OTT] Mark Stone, Tobias Lindberg for Erik Brannstrom, Oscar Lindberg, and 2020 2nd round pick
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It's good for the VGK reptutation to pay these free agents/ trades fair value (looking at Tatar, Stone, Patches, etc) but not so good for their cap... Hope they make a run again this year.
Stone deserves it. One of the best 2-way forwards in the game. Entering prime years.
He has a great hockey IQ and is always aware of the ice around him. Stone is not really a fast player, so skating won't hold him back in being effective in the latter part of his contract.
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This website is all about proving others are wrong and that they should feel bad about the actions of their favourite team. Details like the one you mentioned don’t play well for that.
From under rated to over rated in a couple of years. Good player but ridiculous contract. Sens dodged a bullet here.
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Good deal for both teams. Vegas get an elite winger, Ottawa get what probably ends up being an elite d man and it buys them a few years for Melnyk to sell the team so when this kid wants to get paid he doesn't just get shipped off.
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Sign Pirri and Engelland to cheap contracts, let Cody Glass on the opening night roster, sign Karlsson to $6M AAV for 8-years, trade: Nick Holden, Cody Eakin, Erika Haula, and Jon Merrill. An alternate option would be to waive them, but I think it's best Vegas doesn't leave empty-handed.
Cody Eakin and Nick Holden: Philadelphia for Ryan Hartman and 3rd 2020.
Erik Haula: Carolina for 2nd 2019, 5th 2019 and conditional 3rd 2021.
Jon Merrill: Detroit for 6th 2020
Makes me also question Bellemaire, but I don't see him staying even though he seems to be a good fit there. But he could be had for cheap.
They just better hope they can keep Subban on a cheap contract going into next season. But I'll pretend he signed a cheap contract with them.
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Cody Eakin and Nick Holden: Philadelphia for Ryan Hartman and 3rd 2020.
Erik Haula: Carolina for 2nd 2019, 5th 2019 and conditional 3rd 2021.
Jon Merrill: Detroit for 6th 2020
Makes me also question Bellemaire, but I don't see him staying even though he seems to be a good fit there. But he could be had for cheap.
They just better hope they can keep Subban on a cheap contract going into next season. But I'll pretend he signed a cheap contract with them.
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I didn’t realize until now what a great set of forwards Vegas has. Probably up there with some of the best
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The problem with the Stone contract is the last few years but if you want high end talent like that, you have to pay for the prime years even if it means having to bear through the last couple years
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Stone is pretty likely to remain effective throughout that entire contract, IMO. Hossa was still a 60 point player at age 35 and Stone is the closest thing to a modern day Hossa in the NHL today.
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Too much player movement for such a close knit group IMO.
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Stone is more of an olden days Hossa. Esposito comes to mind. Off the charts hockey sense but lousy skater. Hossa combined that with great skating which most modern players have.
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The cap went up dramatically, and Stone elevated his production over the last two seasons.
He was a 6.5-7.5 million dollar player two years ago, but things change. At that time, this contract would have seemed absurd.
Stone received the upper end of his market value as a UFA. That means this is not a good contract, but that also doesn't mean it's a bad contract. The cap will likely continue to grow and deflate the cap hit quicker than Stone will decline.
A good contract would be Marchand. As a result of numerous factors working in the Bruin's favor, he is now making way below what his current market value would be as a UFA. In cases like Stone, just because a player isn't signed to a contract below their market value, it doesn't make their contract a bad contract - it's just not a good one.
CupInSIX
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Yes, 8 years but that's the gamble. Think high chance they will win a cup though in that time frame.
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Yeah poor Vegas for being a contender right out of expansion, having a GM committed to winning, great fan base, excellent coach. Even if they don't win a cup in the first 10 years but win some more series they will not look "bad" due to this signing which is far from overpayment. It's right in line with other comparables and percentage of cap.
1) Ottawa is pissed about the Stone trade
2) Vegas is pissed about losing Brannstrom
3) Debate about whether the 8 year deal Stone will decline..
As a Sens fan, I would be a bit weary about signing Stone for 8 years. That being said, I'm pissed as hell he ain't gonna be here for at least the next 7. What is one more year for an elite winger who can drive an entire line. I really hope Brannstrom pans out..
2) Vegas is pissed about losing Brannstrom
3) Debate about whether the 8 year deal Stone will decline..
As a Sens fan, I would be a bit weary about signing Stone for 8 years. That being said, I'm pissed as hell he ain't gonna be here for at least the next 7. What is one more year for an elite winger who can drive an entire line. I really hope Brannstrom pans out..
