Confirmed Trade: [VGK/ARI] Dysin Mayo for 2023 5th round pick and Shea Weber

[TorontoTrades]

Arizona Alumni team just keeps getting stronger

 

[dredeye]

I don’t see a problem with that, some teams have a stockpile of picks to use, some have cap space

The problem is that this allows the yotes to not actually have players on their team they have to pay. It’s cap circumvention and the league won’t do anything about it because this is the only way Bettman’s coyotes can ice a team. Please keep Bedard out of the desert.

Actually we are quite happy with the rebuild.

We can tell by all the fan support

 

[uncleben]

The problem is that this allows the yotes to not actually have players on their team they have to pay. It’s cap circumvention and the league won’t do anything about it

To be fair, it's completely and explicitly legal under the CBA, not circumventing anything

 

[ViD]

This guy is happy he got a great teammate

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Well, he's white instead of yellow....wow, did that not come out right

Laughed in real life, I needed that

 

[Half Clapper]

wah wah wah!! Great move by BA and co. When other fans of teams are crying you know you're doing something right.

 

[jackjohnson]

Man Arizona is the garbage dump of the NHL

Arizona in perpetual rebuild which is HFboards motto, get draft picks and get rid of players that are young but will get older once the rebuild is done which is never

wah wah wah!! Great move by BA and co. When other fans of teams are crying you know you're doing something right.

Crying??? I think they are laughing at what a trash team Arizona has become. I think JR should trade them OEL and Myers to Arizona just to clear cap lol

 

[Half Clapper]

Arizona in perpetual rebuild which is HFboards motto, get draft picks and get rid of players that are young but will get older once the rebuild is done which is never


Crying??? I think they are laughing at what a trash team Arizona has become. I think JR should trade them OEL and Myers to Arizona just to clear cap lol

Arizona finally has a GM that knows what he is doing. Look up the day Bill Armstrong got hired and see what he has done since. Chych wants to be traded and Bill is requesting his wish. I think JR should call up Jimmy Benning and ask him about how he got bent over the rails by the Yotes!!

Also, funny enough the Yotes have made it farther in the playoffs the last 15 years than quite a few teams. Have the Leafs made it past the first round since 2010? Because I am pretty sure the Yotes have!

 

[Garbageyuk]

Shea Weber's contract just needed a change of scenery.

His contract will provide a stabilizing presence and sorely needed leadership in Arizona.

 

[Kalopsia]

To be fair, it's completely and explicitly legal under the CBA, not circumventing anything

Circumvention doesn't mean breaking the rules, it means going around them. The back-diving contracts were completely and explicitly legal under the CBA at the time, but were still ruled to be circumventing the cap and the teams that gave out those contracts faced some (admittedly very meager) consequences. This is pretty clearly the Coyotes circumventing the salary floor, but I guess the league doesn't care.

There really be a rule that if a player doesn't make any appearances in a season their cap hit doesn't count towards the salary floor.

 

[Cogburn]

Arizona finally has a GM that knows what he is doing. Look up the day Bill Armstrong got hired and see what he has done since. Chych wants to be traded and Bill is requesting his wish. I think JR should call up Jimmy Benning and ask him about how he got bent over the rails by the Yotes!!

Also, funny enough the Yotes have made it farther in the playoffs the last 15 years than quite a few teams. Have the Leafs made it past the first round since 2010? Because I am pretty sure the Yotes have!

Benning did not get "bent over", he full on presented, after an evening with slow jazz, soft lighting, an expensive seafood dinner and plenty of dirty talk. Not to slut shame, but he wanted that deal, and that is no small part of why he is no longer at the helm.

And yes, Toronto is a laughing stock too, but somehow still has a lineup of players looking to sign below market rates as UFAs, for some inexplicable reason. Like its being close to where they grew up as being it, right?

Circumvention doesn't mean breaking the rules, it means going around them. The back-diving contracts were completely and explicitly legal under the CBA at the time, but were still ruled to be circumventing the cap and the teams that gave out those contracts faced some (admittedly very meager) consequences. This is pretty clearly the Coyotes circumventing the salary floor, but I guess the league doesn't care.

There really be a rule that if a player doesn't make any appearances in a season their cap hit doesn't count towards the salary floor.

They were only meager when they weren't the Canucks, the only team that got bitten by them.

 

[SwedishFire]

Vegas probably trying to get out of LTIR next season and might find Mayo useful.

Pure cap floor move for Arizona next season. Weber isn't owed much in actual cash.

Arizona could get a 3rd at least. What a dumb trade.

Oilers could gladly trade a lot of players for picks to dump salary. Puljujärvi is what Arizona needs, and a pick swap, like pulju+ 3rd for a 5th.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Arizona could get a 3rd at least. What a dumb trade.

There are more teams this year that are looking to add salary and/or tank.

But none of them need Weber, except for the garbage Coyotes franchise. It's exactly the kind of contracts these clowns need to maintain appearances that they meet cap requirements.

They probably just told Vegas to name their price.

 

[SwedishFire]

There are more teams this year that are looking to add salary and/or tank.

But none of them need Weber, except for the garbage Coyotes franchise. It's exactly the kind of contracts these clowns need to maintain appearances that they meet cap requirements.

They probably just told Vegas to name their price.

Or players who are signed to the end of this season to a stupid contract and hardly contribites and get a pick as well. Arizona didnt need this.

Arizona should collect 5 1sts the coming 3 years just taking salary dump moves on 1 - 3 year long bad contracts. 15 1sts 3 years, meanwhile the picks are developong, the older players play out their contracts.

But a tank strategy seldom helps, a poorly franshise tire out competetive players. Chuchryn was drafted im the tank era, and wants already out. Tanking backfires

 

[rt]

Why did Vegas acquire Weber again? I can’t remember if it was pathetic when they traded for him or if it was smart. And is it smart now for them to dump him or is it pathetic? I can never remember. Thanks guys, you’re always so good at this.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Vegas legend Shea Weber 2022-2023

Say what you want but even banged up he was a force to be reckoned with. Respect.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Vegas going all in even if Weber only plays the bottom pairing.

 

[jackjohnson]

Arizona finally has a GM that knows what he is doing. Look up the day Bill Armstrong got hired and see what he has done since. Chych wants to be traded and Bill is requesting his wish. I think JR should call up Jimmy Benning and ask him about how he got bent over the rails by the Yotes!!

Also, funny enough the Yotes have made it farther in the playoffs the last 15 years than quite a few teams. Have the Leafs made it past the first round since 2010? Because I am pretty sure the Yotes have!

It's easy to bend over Jim Benning, even a kindergartner would win a trade against him so nothing to boast about. You keep praising the Yotes GM but when will they start building an actual NHL team? It's easy to tear a team down, the hard part is to build a winner. So I guess maybe you should hold on to the praise until we see coyotes actually make the playoffs.

There are more teams this year that are looking to add salary and/or tank.

But none of them need Weber, except for the garbage Coyotes franchise. It's exactly the kind of contracts these clowns need to maintain appearances that they meet cap requirements.

They probably just told Vegas to name their price.

And to think some poster here praising the clowns running the Coyotes management

 

[TheLegend]

George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg and Ice Cube

So… life long fan since…..

*checks sign up date*

….2016.

 

[Dead Coyote]

The problem is that this allows the yotes to not actually have players on their team they have to pay. It’s cap circumvention and the league won’t do anything about it because this is the only way Bettman’s coyotes can ice a team. Please keep Bedard out of the desert.


We can tell by all the fan support

It's not cap circumvention, his cap counts towards the salary cap like it should, and he gets paid the money he's owed.

Funny, I don't see you bitching about OTT getting out of the Zaitsev contract. I didn't see you complaining that Chicago has now taken on Mrazek, Zaitsev and Johnson. This is what rebuilding teams do. They rebuild. You build a surplus of assets and then use those assets to rebuild.

[MOD]

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Embarrassing if this is the motivation. Have some pride and grow your team stop being bottom feeders paying league min every year

Arizona is in the league for this very reason.

Cap dump wastesite. That's the only explanation as to why Bettman never moves them.

Look at how huge of a failure they've been. They got tossed out of their own arena for not paying the bills. Now they play NHL games in a college arena that takes what, 5k fans per game?

This is how the other teams can still stay under the cap. Dump everything on Arizona.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Man, I really love how we have worthless teams in this league who only exist to eat bad contracts for other teams and give them an unfair advantage. This is so cool.

Yep. That's the reason as to why Bettman hasn't moved the team.

 

[Martin Skoula]

It's not cap circumvention, his cap counts towards the salary cap like it should, and he gets paid the money he's owed.

Funny, I don't see you bitching about OTT getting out of the Zaitsev contract. I didn't see you bitching that Chicago has now taken on Mrazek, Zaitsev and Johnson. This is what rebuilding teams do. They rebuild. You build a surplus of assets and then use those assets to rebuild.

Mrazek Zaitsev and Johnson actually play for the Hawks, nor do the Hawks need their contracts to hit the cap floor lol. Couldn’t be any worse of a comparison if you tried. The Hawks are doing it for picks, Arizona is doing it to save 6 figures in cash paid out because they can’t afford to spend 70 mil without insurance paying effectively retired players.

There is some poetry to the fact that they drafted Chychrun with a pick they got for taking on Datsyuk's ghost contract to help them artificially reach the cap floor, proceeded to squander him as an asset for their team, are further from being competitive than they were when they drafted him, and now have to trade for yet another ghost contract because otherwise trading Chychrun would put them below the cap floor again. The cycle of life is just beautiful isn't it?

 

[jonlin]

Your Arizona Coyotes:

Projected Cap Hit	$66,446,633
Projected Cap Space	$16,053,367
Current Cap Space	$59,397,457
LTIR Pool	$0
Roster	22/23
Contracts	47/50

Arizona really can run it! 59M cap...

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

This is the sole reason Coyotes exist.