Confirmed Trade: [VAN/TBL] J.T. Miller for Marek Mazanec, 2019 3rd round pick, and 2020 conditional 1st round pick

[Seanaconda]

This deal won't look brutal for the Lightning unless Miller becomes better than Point. It had to be made.

like it only had to be made because tampa gives everyone trade clauses

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

Probably playing the best hockey of his career right now. Glad to see it working out for you guys in Vancouver. Y'all gotta lay off Jim Benning so much. He's not great but it gets worse than him -especially in other sports.

I know that I am one of the few who feel this way, but Benning has done an outstanding job for the Canucks. Sure he has made his mistakes, as all GM's do, but he has rebuilt this team in only 5 years. That is a very good turn around. Canucks have depth in all positions, roll 4 lines, have strong D, have outstanding goaltending and a loaded farm system. They should make a real push for the playoffs this season. But according to many, JB sucks.

 

[Sky04]

This deal won't look brutal for the Lightning unless Miller becomes better than Point. It had to be made.

Not really, Gourde was the alternative without a NTC kicking in.

 

[NinjaKick]

I know that I am one of the few who feel this way, but Benning has done an outstanding job for the Canucks. Sure he has made his mistakes, as all GM's do, but he has rebuilt this team in only 5 years. That is a very good turn around. Canucks have depth in all positions, roll 4 lines, have strong D, have outstanding goaltending and a loaded farm system. They should make a real push for the playoffs this season. But according to many, JB sucks.

I really like Travis Green as a coach as well

 

[Sky04]

I said he was a good player. Id have traded Gourde instead if I didnt know we could possibly get a unprotected 1st out of this.

Underutilized in Tampa with a ridiculously short leash from Cooper, I don't think anyone could argue he played to his potential last year.

 

[Derg12]

The Rangers are the team that should be dumped on for getting rid of him.

This. Moving Miller and mishandling Buchnevich have always left me baffled.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Underutilized in Tampa with a ridiculously short leash from Cooper, I don't think anyone could argue he played to his potential last year.

I thought he looked good with Stamkos and Kucherov the year before. Played well with Point too. We won 62 games without him in the top 6 but he fit in there just as well as anybody else we put up there, if not better.

 

[iFan]

Why are people so concerned about how bad this looks for TBL? It’s a win win trade, a good hockey trade that helped both teams. TBL had to clear cap and Canucks badly needed a player like JT Miller, both teams got what they needed.

 

[CherryToke]

Looks like this trade isn't the disaster that so many predicted. Keeping Yanni Gourde over Miller looks like a disaster though.

 

[GOilers88]

Why are people so concerned about how bad this looks for TBL? It’s a win win trade, a good hockey trade that helped both teams. TBL had to clear cap and Canucks badly needed a player like JT Miller, both teams got what they needed.

Because young folks have a weird obsession with having to label someone a winner and someone a loser so they can argue with each other about who is better.

 

[DFC]

Looks like this trade isn't the disaster that so many predicted. Keeping Yanni Gourde over Miller looks like a disaster though.

Nah. Gourde has found a role for himself. We had to clear somebody. If you go back through the thread, most TB fans didn't think Vancouver overpaid. We figured Miller would be really good there.

ADD: It's really NYR fans who've got a strange grudge with him.

 

[FloridaSabresFan]

I thought a 1st was too much for JT Miller and now it looks like a steal. You never know until later.

 

[gianni]

Fair deal.

What I'm curious about is next off-season, when the Lightning are in another cap crunch. Is a big trade gonna be made, or will they fill the roster w/ ELC's & vet minimum contracts? Also, how much is Mikhail Sergachev looking to re-sign for?

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

JT Miller is one of the worst playoff players in hockey. Him not on a contender is a good thing.

 

[iamitter]

The only team that made out poorly is the Rangers. TB got good value and Vancouver got a great player. New York got Namestnikov

 

[EdJovanovski]

The only team that made out poorly is the Rangers. TB got good value and Vancouver got a great player. New York got Namestnikov

Imagine thinking Miller is a better player than Namestnikov

 

[Nazzlind]

Imagine thinking Miller is a better player than Namestnikov

is this sarcasm?

 

[Siludin]

Imagine thinking Miller is a better player than Namestnikov

I'm calling the police

 

[Cogburn]

Why did this turd, I mean gem, of a thread get necro'd?

As far as I'm concerned Canucks got their guy, and Tampa got a few picks, everyone is happy, right?

Or are we rubbing it in the faces of Negative Nancy's who aren't going to reply to or even read this?

 

[Mitch nylander]

Imagine thinking Miller is a better player than Namestnikov

Aren't you the guy who made a thread calling Miller the biggest bozo in the league.

 

[M2Beezy]

Hes been great for us, Im just hoping he doesnt make us a team that will for a while be a mediocritc team that wont be good enough to compete but also not bad enough to get top picks

Also ya know, hopefully Tampa doesnt get a top 5 pick in 2021

But as a player he has been great. We have been warned he can be inconsistent but so far thru 30 games he has been our most consistent player, and brings it all the time. He has had a handful of WHAT ARE YOU DOING brain farts, but he also has handful of great plays every game so i will take that trade off.

 

[VanJack]

Sometimes a guy is just a square peg in a round hole. Miller had a lot of wingers ahead of him with the Bolts....but kudos to Benning for recognizing that he had 'another gear to reach' in a different setting.

But it happens. Look at Blake Wheeler. Another first-round pick who bounced around the league, but is now the captain and a mainstay in Winnipeg.

And from the Canucks perspective, getting a guy who's a legitimate top-six forward; only 26 and on a cost-controlled contract for the next five seasons,, makes it an even better deal.

 

[DFC]

It's a good trade. I think the evidence is that, if either team had a time machine, they'd go back and make the same deal.

 

[Bankerguy]

Its the first win-win trade since the Peter Schaefer for Sami Salo trade

 

[Boud]

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