And both teams still dont have a shot for a ring.
I guess I would rather give the max to kyrie instead of Thomas.
Cavs won the deal, especially if that nets pick ends up top 3.
And both teams still dont have a shot for a ring.
I guess I would rather give the max to kyrie instead of Thomas.
Cavs won the deal, especially if that nets pick ends up top 3.
Sure they do Celts or Cavs are going to the finals so they obviously have a shot at a ring.
The Celts are what??
Celtics now have a big 2 and will be lucky to finish third in the conference, and Cleveland just got weaker defensively after watching its roster get a year older (rhetorical question: who plays the point in crunch time trying to hold a lead: the zombified corpse of Derrick Rose or the dwarf?). Also, IT isn't going to have a 34% usage rate with Lebron. Both teams were better at 5:00 today than now.
Quoted for truth. If anything Raptors got better by not being in this deal. Raptors still have a shot at the finals
The Celts are what??
Celtics now have a big 2 and will be lucky to finish third in the conference, and Cleveland just got weaker defensively after watching its roster get a year older (rhetorical question: who plays the point in crunch time trying to hold a lead: the zombified corpse of Derrick Rose or the dwarf?). Also, IT isn't going to have a 34% usage rate with Lebron. Both teams were better at 5:00 today than now.
Celts are going to win close to 60 games with Irving-Hayward-Horford, with guys like Smart/Brown/Tatum/Morris to give those 3 a little help. Cleveland still has Bron/Love. It's not like the Raptors can beat either team in a best of 7.
Lmao. Surely, you're joking.
The only thing valid in this post is "Cleveland still has Bron". That I'll buy, and alone makes them the favourite to come out of the east. The rest? My lawd.
So you think the Celtics won't make the Eastern Finals again? I think you're cutting the Celts very short Irving-Hayward-Horford is a great trio. You will see guys like Smart/Brown make strides. This really opens up time for Tatum to play the 3 or 4. I also never said the Celts were the favs I said in my original post that both teams have a great chance at making the finals therefore they have a shot at the ring by making the NBA Finals. The Celtics leveraged 2 great years from Thomas into one of the best scorers in the NBA and one of the top young players in the league. Considering they didn't want to max out Thomas I would say that's pretty good.
Yeah, no I don't.
And conversely, I think you're overrating Kyrie and Horford, while underrate get the effect of losing Bradley/IT/Crowder. The Celtics 16/17 strategy of "everyone play great defence and IT do whatever the hell you want on offence, 35% usage ftw" has now flown completely out the window. You've now made a big three out of two guys who were clearly the #2's on their teams in 16/17 (neither of which is a top 5 player at their position), and 31 year old Al Horford. Smart is what he is (solid wing defender, broken jumper), Brown has a long way to go to be a neutral vorp player, and Tatum is a daisy fresh rookie.
The trade itself is fine from an asset management perspective. IT is as flawed an asset as I've seen in some time in the NBA, and have said that since the season ended. But let's not act like either team has gotten better for 17/18. The east is essentially if Lebron is healthy, the Cavs are through.
I see them making the finals again, simply because I don't see anyone else who can challenge them for it. It would not surprise me to see Cleveland-Boston in the East again.
It hinges on two things, can the Raptors top one of Cleveland or Boston, how far have the Bucks come, which lives and dies with Giannis.
Really, who else could challenge them?
Jeez can you imagine if they pulled out of the deal. Already there were reports of how upset Isiah was about this trade to begin with and then he has to go back? lol oh man please basketball gods make it happen
highly unlikely the trade is nixed but i absolutely see the cavs getting a little more from the celtics now, most likely another pick.