Stich said:US has 'more' young talent.
Russia has 'better' young talent.
Rabid Ranger said:I would disagree. I think overall the U.S. has more and better young talent. We just don't have a guy in Ovechkin's class. I'm not sure what to make of Malkin yet.
Zine said:Yep, the US doesn't have a player in Ovechkin's class....or Kovalchuk's class, or Zherdev's class, or Malkin's class, or even Frolov's class. Even Semin is better than any US prospect apart from maybe Parise and Suter.
The only place Russia is seriously lacking is in goal, although given the chance I think Bryzgalov could be a pretty decent NHL'er.
As a whole, I'd agree that the US has more young talent but Russia has better young talent.
This is proven when looking at junior competitions between the two over the last few years (U-20, U-18, U-17, etc.). Apart from a select few games, the US continuously looses to the Russians.
Postman said:The way I see it, the US has the advantage on defense and in goal, while Russia has the edge upfront due to Ovechkin/Kovalchuk/Zherdev level players. That's really the only thing the US is not producing at this point, but it looks like they have one in 2006 with Kessel. Otherwise, they seem to be producing defensemen almost at the same rate as Canada, and in goal I would rate them third, behind only Canada and Finland.
Zine said:Yep, the US doesn't have a player in Ovechkin's class....or Kovalchuk's class, or Zherdev's class, or Malkin's class, or even Frolov's class. Even Semin is better than any US prospect apart from maybe Parise and Suter.
The only place Russia is seriously lacking is in goal, although given the chance I think Bryzgalov could be a pretty decent NHL'er.
As a whole, I'd agree that the US has more young talent but Russia has better young talent.
This is proven when looking at junior competitions between the two over the last few years (U-20, U-18, U-17, etc.). Apart from a select few games, the US continuously looses to the Russians.
Mobey said:You're seriously overrating Semin.
EroCaps said:There are many a Caps fan who would take Semin over Parise in a heart beat. He has all-star written all over him. His talent level is sick, and he's faster than Zherdev.
My vote goes to Russia. We're forgetting about Anikeenko.
Stich said:What I bolded above is the key to your statement.
EroCaps said:There are many a Caps fan who would take Semin over Parise in a heart beat. He has all-star written all over him. His talent level is sick, and he's faster than Zherdev.
My vote goes to Russia. We're forgetting about Anikeenko.
ofhdhdy said:No contest. Russia definately has better prospects then the US
Slick Nick said:It's a pretty nice group, IMO the US can't match this right now, at least up front.
Stich said:What I bolded above is the key to your statement.
Although I have not seen Parise outside of the World Juniors, I will say that I did not see him come close to the skill I've seen from Semin in the NHL. Semin has already stunned a few NHL defensemen. He's got crazy moves and skating skill, impressive speed, and a knack for coming out of a scrum in the corners with the puck on his stick. His passing is hugely underrated also. Who knows who will eventually be the more valuable player, but putting Semin in the same class as Parise (or even favoring him) is certainly not overrating him.Mobey said:You're seriously overrating Semin.
i don't know why you mention zherdev, but zherdev's twice as sick as semin.EroCaps said:There are many a Caps fan who would take Semin over Parise in a heart beat. He has all-star written all over him. His talent level is sick, and he's faster than Zherdev.
My vote goes to Russia. We're forgetting about Anikeenko.