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CrazyEddie20
Hey RuZZia - Cut Your Losses and Go Home.
You can't spell "sucks" without 'uc'!
The decision was all about marketing. It has nothing to do with "wokeness," which is just a term facists use to signal their opposition to something - usually something that requires critical thinking they're unwilling or unable to do.
Considering that it's called Mohawk Harbor because the city is on the Mohawk River, I don't think that the name will be changed "because of sensitive people at the school."
I don't think building an arena in downtown Schenectady is a good business move. They'll never be able to bring in enough revenue to pay off any bonds issued to pay for the construction. The city is dead. The whole Albany metro area is the single-worst minor league sports market in the country.
Union could easily raise the money to build their own arena, they're just smart enough to let the city raise the money and be on the hook for the costs and the losses.
MiamiHockeyII
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Ticked off? Hardly.
This renaming is not about wokeness or Diversity / Equity / Inclusion. It's about trying to find a better nickname than Dutchmen / Dutchwomen. With all due respect to the fine Dutch people, that name does not exactly roll off the tongue, nor does it inspire anyone.
That said, as a Marketing expert, I can say that "Garnet Chargers" is actually worse than "Dutchmen."
It's nonsensical because Garnet is not a word ANYONE uses to describe anything, and it's certainly not a word you would use to modify Charge. Union Chargers would have been better, and Union Garnet would have been better. "Union Garnet Chargers" is what you get when you assign a committee to create a brand.
Think about recent College rebranding ...
UND Fighting Sioux to Fighting Hawks (yes, hawks fight)
St John's from Redmen to Red Storm (Red is a word people use)
RMC Redmen to Paladins (a white knight)
McGill Redmen to Redbirds (not inspiring, but miles better than Garnetbirds would have been)
Miami Redskins to RedHawks
There is a long list of schools that rebranded from Indians or Redmen to something better .... and not one of those schools chose "Garnet"
This renaming is not about wokeness or Diversity / Equity / Inclusion. It's about trying to find a better nickname than Dutchmen / Dutchwomen. With all due respect to the fine Dutch people, that name does not exactly roll off the tongue, nor does it inspire anyone.
That said, as a Marketing expert, I can say that "Garnet Chargers" is actually worse than "Dutchmen."
It's nonsensical because Garnet is not a word ANYONE uses to describe anything, and it's certainly not a word you would use to modify Charge. Union Chargers would have been better, and Union Garnet would have been better. "Union Garnet Chargers" is what you get when you assign a committee to create a brand.
Think about recent College rebranding ...
UND Fighting Sioux to Fighting Hawks (yes, hawks fight)
St John's from Redmen to Red Storm (Red is a word people use)
RMC Redmen to Paladins (a white knight)
McGill Redmen to Redbirds (not inspiring, but miles better than Garnetbirds would have been)
Miami Redskins to RedHawks
There is a long list of schools that rebranded from Indians or Redmen to something better .... and not one of those schools chose "Garnet"
CrazyEddie20
Hey RuZZia - Cut Your Losses and Go Home.
Yeah, but it's so much easier than doing critical thinking to just say something is "woke!"
No Fun Shogun
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Not ticked off, but that does seem particularly dumb.
Off-topic, but a conference rival of my alma mater is Kenyon College, and they randomly changed their names from the Lords (and Ladies) to the Owls this past year. Just seems... weird?
Also, "Dutchmen" might not roll off the tongue, but it does compared to "Garnet Chargers."
Off-topic, but a conference rival of my alma mater is Kenyon College, and they randomly changed their names from the Lords (and Ladies) to the Owls this past year. Just seems... weird?
Also, "Dutchmen" might not roll off the tongue, but it does compared to "Garnet Chargers."
MiamiHockeyII
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That one was not related to race, clearly. It appears that Kenyon College is currently a very progressive Liberal Arts college with a large LGBTQ+ community that did not consider "Lords" and "Ladies" inclusive. Read the articles yourself.
I can't say that Lords / Ladies was a great choice for a team name ... but I do find it fascinating that people argue that a bird is more representative of their identity than either of those terms.
Barely registers. Call yourselves whatever you want ... nobody is watching Kenyon College.
JMCx4
Censorship is the Sincerest Form of Flattery
Maybe the College studied their market, and discovered there were a large number of people born in January who might be inclined to support the athletic teams if the new name reflected the birthstone of the targeted demographic. Or maybe the study identified a particularly wealthy segment of the regional population who are prone to believe that garnet has both healing & protective powers. Or maybe somebody on the naming committee thought "Red" was overused in sports, and "Ruby" was too pedestrian, so "Garnet" was their next natural color choice. It's certainly more tolerable than "Pomegranate Chargers" would've been.
SemireliableSource
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Why is it that "woke" or "woke nonsense" is typically just code for "I don't like this and I want to complain?
Can you actually define woke?
That said, I feel like the name is a little uninspired but you're just going to get that when a name changes. No one is ever going to really be like, "WHOA, I FEEL SO MUCH MORE INSPIRED NOW!"
Can you actually define woke?
That said, I feel like the name is a little uninspired but you're just going to get that when a name changes. No one is ever going to really be like, "WHOA, I FEEL SO MUCH MORE INSPIRED NOW!"
