GDT: UFC Fight Night: Dillashaw vs. Cruz

[darko]

Immediate rematch? Dillashaw had to give Barao one, didn't he? Seems like he'd have a good argument for an immediate Dillashaw/Cruz 2 if Cruz is healthy enough to fight again.

I don't see why not on immediate rematch.

TJ needs to start kicking early and often. It's how you slow down guys like Cruz.

 

[Avs_19]

Even though I don't like rematches, I'd rather see a rematch here than one of the other contenders getting a shot. I don't think those guys have much to offer Cruz.

The one exception would be Mighty Mouse. I'd like to see that fight again if he's planning on moving up. They could then do the Dillashaw/Faber fight as well.

 

[jw2]

Even though I don't like rematches, I'd rather see a rematch here than one of the other contenders getting a shot. I don't think those guys have much to offer Cruz.

The one exception would be Mighty Mouse. I'd like to see that fight again if he's planning on moving up. They could then do the Dillashaw/Faber fight as well.

All of this.

Plus the fight was super close

 

[KapG]

Is there anyone in MMA that moves as well as Cruz? I can live with him not knocking guys out every fight because it's such a treat to watch him maneuver around the cage.

The only guy who I can think of that might be close Is Mighty Mouse. Speaking of which, there's a fight id like to see

 

[Porn*]

Is there anyone in MMA that moves as well as Cruz? I can live with him not knocking guys out every fight because it's such a treat to watch him maneuver around the cage.

The only guy who I can think of that might be close Is Mighty Mouse. Speaking of which, there's a fight id like to see

I find condit to be quite smooth in his movement... when healthy that is...

 

[KapG]

I find condit to be quite smooth in his movement... when healthy that is...

Yes, condit is a really smooth fighter too. He's another guy who is really enjoyable to watch

 

[darko]

Is there anyone in MMA that moves as well as Cruz? I can live with him not knocking guys out every fight because it's such a treat to watch him maneuver around the cage.

The only guy who I can think of that might be close Is Mighty Mouse. Speaking of which, there's a fight id like to see

There's no one like him.

Condit does it well but Cruz is on a different level.

 

[LSCII]

You did push the pace TJ. You also whiffed more than Ryan Howard.

This is exactly right. Hard to give the win to a guy who couldn't land a punch most of the night. Cruz showed everyone he's just that much better than they are. His movement alone is other worldly. He embarrassed a guy who had been destroying everyone in his weight class. The fact he's complaining about the scoring is really sad.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

This is exactly right. Hard to give the win to a guy who couldn't land a punch most of the night. Cruz showed everyone he's just that much better than they are. His movement alone is other worldly. He embarrassed a guy who had been destroying everyone in his weight class. The fact he's complaining about the scoring is really sad.

His performance was absolutely amazing, especially considering the layoff, but I wouldn't exactly say he embarrassed TJ. Most had that fight razor close, and some even gave the slight edge to TJ.

 

[Nurmagomedov]

Is there anyone in MMA that moves as well as Cruz? I can live with him not knocking guys out every fight because it's such a treat to watch him maneuver around the cage.

The only guy who I can think of that might be close Is Mighty Mouse. Speaking of which, there's a fight id like to see

Yeah, i want to see Cruz v MM and Dillashaw vs. Assuncao. Rematch will be bigger if TJ can avenge a loss and come in to the title fight with a win over a tough guy under his belt.

 

[LSCII]

His performance was absolutely amazing, especially considering the layoff, but I wouldn't exactly say he embarrassed TJ. Most had that fight razor close, and some even gave the slight edge to TJ.

I don't know. I saw TJ swing a miss an awful lot the entire fight. 5th round is the only one I'd give him, and it was the only one he really connected with strikes consistently. Most of the night he was swinging at and hitting air. He's also now whining that Joe Rogan's call of the fight was biased. Take your loss like a man and grow from it. If you don't like the analyst's fight call, next time perform better and make it irrelevant.

 

[tmurfin]

My thoughts throughout the fight, minus the last two rounds, OUTCLASSED. Watching Dillashaw swing at nothing was crazy.

 

[MD thaivuN]

I don't know. I saw TJ swing a miss an awful lot the entire fight. 5th round is the only one I'd give him, and it was the only one he really connected with strikes consistently. Most of the night he was swinging at and hitting air. He's also now whining that Joe Rogan's call of the fight was biased. Take your loss like a man and grow from it. If you don't like the analyst's fight call, next time perform better and make it irrelevant.

Sure missed a lot, but landed a lot too. If TJ hadn't went for multiple headkicks, and converted those shots into leg and body kicks. those would have been higher percentage of landing and he would have absolutely won that fight. that was how close that fight was. the smallest of details mattered and Cruz won by small margins with better tactics.

As for Rogan, i do find his commentary on striking pretty gringe worthy lately.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

Great article on BE talking about the scoring of this fight. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was VERY close and was fine with either guy getting the decision, but the writer hit the nail on the head. I've never heard someone get praised more for making his opponent miss when it came to scoring a fight. As the author touched upon, it's highly impressive in and of itself, but it doesn't score you points. Yes it can obviously (indirectly) help you win, but the act of making your opponent miss doesn't score you points on its own. I'm not saying this is why the judges sided with Cruz, but it did seem to get brought up an awful lot in terms of why Cruz got the decision.

 

[KapG]

Seemed to me that he did more damage too. *shrug*

 

[member 51464]

Is this like boxing where it is easy to find the full striking info after to compare?

 

[KapG]

You can find stuff similar to compubox scoring if you google it up.

 

[Virtanen18]

Great article on BE talking about the scoring of this fight. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was VERY close and was fine with either guy getting the decision, but the writer hit the nail on the head. I've never heard someone get praised more for making his opponent miss when it came to scoring a fight. As the author touched upon, it's highly impressive in and of itself, but it doesn't score you points. Yes it can obviously (indirectly) help you win, but the act of making your opponent miss doesn't score you points on its own. I'm not saying this is why the judges sided with Cruz, but it did seem to get brought up an awful lot in terms of why Cruz got the decision.

I agree, which is why I tend to sympathize with TJ because at least he was the aggressor in this. I don't know about the official strike counts but it seemed like TJ pushed the pace a lot more while Cruz was just attempting to dodge. And interestingly enough, it's such a stark contrast to what we always hear about in boxing. If Floyd Mayweather does damage but spends most of the fight dodging stuff, its seen as really boring and a joke to the sport. Cruz does something similar and he's praised to death for his footwork. It's an interesting difference I think.

Got a link to this article?

 

[member 51464]

Is this standard fighting style for Cruz? I think Floyd got **** because his entire career was spent dodging many of the highest level guys. I mean, haven't there been fights where Cruz just tore someone apart?

 

[KapG]

Floyd gets so much **** but the bottom line is that he might be one of the greatest defensive boxers ever and is only 1 win away from equaling or surpassing (can't remember) marcianos perfect career record. Also, those people who talk **** about Floyd are pretty much Floyd haters.

From what I recall, Cruz threw less strikes but connected on more.

It was a total clinic and TJ was completely outclassed by a guy who hadn't fought in what, 2-3 years?

 

[Kitten Mittons]

Floyd fought everyone. People keep complaining about him not fighting them at the right place and the right time and that they suddenly became past their prime; for whatever reason, that rule never applied to Floyd.

Watching Mayweather is amazing, his movement and dodges are so much smoother than Cruz's, obviously. People just want knockouts and don't appreciate technique.

 

[darko]

I hate Floyd but always found it hilarious when people say he was dodging fighters and when he did fight them it was when they were past their prime. Perfect example was Manny. Oh Floyd fought Manny who was past his prime. Uhh Manny is a year younger than Floyd.

 

[darko]

Floyd gets so much **** but the bottom line is that he might be one of the greatest defensive boxers ever and is only 1 win away from equaling or surpassing (can't remember) marcianos perfect career record. Also, those people who talk **** about Floyd are pretty much Floyd haters.

From what I recall, Cruz threw less strikes but connected on more.

It was a total clinic and TJ was completely outclassed by a guy who hadn't fought in what, 2-3 years?

I recall punches landed being very close after 3. Cruz did take TJ down 3 times by that point. TJ didn't start kicking until like 4th round. Pretty stupid on TJ's part.

 

[member 51464]

I hate Floyd but always found it hilarious when people say he was dodging fighters and when he did fight them it was when they were past their prime. Perfect example was Manny. Oh Floyd fought Manny who was past his prime. Uhh Manny is a year younger than Floyd.

Obviously prime Manny was juiced Manny

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I recall punches landed being very close after 3. Cruz did take TJ down 3 times by that point. TJ didn't start kicking until like 4th round. Pretty stupid on TJ's part.

Again, TJ fought a really dumb fight. He decided not to listen to his corner (who told him to touch him before going big) and just decided that he was a knock out artist. I have no idea why he was throwing just head kicks and haymakers for so long. He was able to destroy Barao by utilizing a lot of combos and footwork. For this fight he abandoned everything that got him to this level and decided to stay flat footed and swing.