GDT: UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

[I am not exposed]

Such a difference between that fight and Brunson/du Plessis lol

du Plessis has the least impressive win streak in UFC at the moment. lol

I like him, but not too sure how he keeps winning. I think he will be exposed fighting a legit top 5 contender. But watch him somehow win haha

Also judges like Gamrot.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

du Plessis has the least impressive win streak in UFC at the moment. lol

I like him, but not too sure how he keeps winning. I think he will be exposed fighting a legit top 5 contender. But watch him somehow win haha

Also judges like Gamrot.

He's so weird... I remember his last fight the broadcast mentioned something about his breathing through his mouth and it just makes him look so shot.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Fight was in Vegas, Bones is waking up behind bars this morning

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Fight was in Vegas, Bones is waking up behind bars this morning

 

[I am not exposed]

Gane living the best life. Plays FIFA for 2 months then gets paid to kick Jon Jones in the dick.

 

[MMC]

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Geoff Neal gets his FOTN bonus even though he missed weight.

 

[OKR]

I hope Jones loses.

I have no idea how so many people consider him the greatest UFC fighter of all-time considering his doping history.

Does anyone in 2023 consider Lance Armstrong the greatest cycling athlete of all-time? Not that I am aware of, and nor should they.

Besides, for every time an athlete has been caught doping, you can rest assured that they have been doping 10X as much and simply weren't ever caught the other times.

His legacy is very tainted, in my opinion.

I mean he fought in the era when literally everyone doped, and he tested positive because of off-brand cialis and cocaine. Not something like roids or actual ped’s that would actually be benefitial in fighting. I’d be interested to hear who you has the goat?

I mean, how can you say he isn’t the goat? So much talk about Gane being different breed and Jones straight up dominated him and walked straight trough him.

 

[torero]

I hope Jones loses.

I have no idea how so many people consider him the greatest UFC fighter of all-time considering his doping history.

Does anyone in 2023 consider Lance Armstrong the greatest cycling athlete of all-time? Not that I am aware of, and nor should they.

Besides, for every time an athlete has been caught doping, you can rest assured that they have been doping 10X as much and simply weren't ever caught the other times.

His legacy is very tainted, in my opinion.

His legacy will be tainted.

But not even that much at the end.

The thing is the following : skill !! the amount of skill or technical training you need in MMA is huge.
And their is no short cut in this .... you have to be good and learn.

Lance Armsontron , cycling requires less skill i imagine , not less training ... but less skill. Threfore chmistry will make the beneficiary unique.
Unlike Armstrong, JJones is unique in his skills. Chemistry can be a difference maker , but not in the case of JJones. .... he is not a freak of nature (like Chamzat for exemple) he is good.

 

[m9]

Effortless performance by Jones. This was the way Jones was going to win, I just didn't think it would go so quick. Impossible to get a read on where his entire game is right now given how quickly it was over. As for Gane, this is ugly. The lack of wrestling sure seems like it's going to be a major issue unless he puts the work in.

Grasso looked better on the feet than I thought, but more than anything what a dumb, reckless mistake by Shevchenko. No idea why you try that kick in that range. Glad to see stupidity burn someone so quickly.

Shavkat train keeps rolling and Nickel passed the first test. Blue-chip guys.

DDP pulls this kind of sloppy/tired stuff every fight and he's gotten pretty far with it, but you have to imagine that bill is coming due.

Not a moral victory for Jalin Turner but he did okay in a loss. Not sure what to think of Gamrot or this fight right now.

Unimpressed by Garbrandt. Glad he got that easier fight because wins are going to be tough for him going forward.

 

[Chaels Arms]

The wild thing is at 35 and with a three year layoff with the way HW is looking at the moment Jones could really string together a good couple of title defenses here before he's done.

 

[pistolpete11]

Jones-Gane : Great result for Jones, but to me, this was more about Gane's piss poor performance. Just really disappointing. Not only did it make for an anti-climatic fight, we didn't really get any answers to the questions we had about Jones. The UFC and Francis making up would be incredible, but I'm stoked for Jones-Stipe anyway.

Grasso-Shevchenko : Another heavily favored champ losing. Crazy year+. Grasso looked great. She has good boxing, but I thought Valentina would still be better there. Grasso was tagging her any time they were on the feet, though. She's definitely at a disadvantage on the ground, but not so much so that she couldn't get back to her feet. Really uncharacteristically dumb decision from Valentina to throw that spinning kick. You're in control of the fight by taking her down. Why throw something like that? But man, Grasso jumped on that so quickly. No doubt a rematch is coming. Valentina will be favored and she'll probably win, but Valentina's days of just running through girls I think is over. Wonder if they try to rebook Santos-Blanchfield now?

Rakhmonov-Neal : Worthy Fight of the Night. Not as dominant for Rakhmonov as one might hope, but I think this will also put him on the map for some fans now. Can't wait to see who he gets next. I wonder if Neal has something going on in his personal life. Missing weight badly and Dana still giving him his performance bonus?

Not much to say about Gamrot-Turner or Nickal-Pickett.

Cody-Jones : Terrible performance from Cody. This fight was made for him to look good and he ended up leaving much to be desired. Just a crazy fall from the top for this guy.

Du Plessis-Brunson : What a slopfest. Brunson's late career push for a title shot was fun, but it's over. He should probably retire at this point.

Ribas-Araujo : Still think Ribas would be better at 115.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Valentina - I thought she dropped the ball when she stopped throwing leg/body kicks early on, probably because she didn't like punches coming back but I thought her kicks would even things out. Shevchenko took some nasty shots and then it appeared she was content with controlling her on the ground with limited activity. The funny thing was when she was active on the ground Herzog stood them up. Kind of a strange night with the refs inserting themselves often.

Jones - a disappointing fight from an entertainment aspect and to garner any info on Jones at HW. Gane kind of just folded... wasn't ready for the big stage. Dana stated he has no idea what happens with Jones after this fight... stated communicating with him is like dealing with an artist. lol.

 

[I am not exposed]

Valentina - I thought she dropped the ball when she stopped throwing leg/body kicks early on, probably because she didn't like punches coming back but I thought her kicks would even things out. Shevchenko took some nasty shots and then it appeared she was content with controlling her on the ground with limited activity. The funny thing was when she was active on the ground Herzog stood them up. Kind of a strange night with the refs inserting themselves often.

Jones - a disappointing fight from an entertainment aspect and to garner any info on Jones at HW. Gane kind of just folded... wasn't ready for the big stage. Dana stated he has no idea what happens with Jones after this fight... stated communicating with him is like dealing with an artist. lol.

Yeah that wasn't a good stand up. Especially as we saw Islam just holding Volk's back for 2 minutes doing nothing. At least Shevchenko was getting shots off!

 

[CDJ]

He's so weird... I remember his last fight the broadcast mentioned something about his breathing through his mouth and it just makes him look so shot.

His nose is all jacked up, said he needs surgery on it

 

[1specter]

Jones has the insults of a 15 year old playing COD

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Jones has the insults of a 15 year old playing COD

His insults are alot more PG than a 15 year old playing cod

 

[Bunk Moreland]

His nose is all jacked up, said he needs surgery on it

He's gonna be 5-6ish in the rankings next fight should be a bigger name like a Costa/Strickland/cannonier... he uhhhh should get that fixed first lol

 

[CDJ]

He's gonna be 5-6ish in the rankings next fight should be a bigger name like a Costa/Strickland/cannonier... he uhhhh should get that fixed first lol

FOR SURE. A sick part of me wants to see Whittaker fraud check him lol

I believe he said his plan was to get it done after the till fight but this opportunity came along

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Yeah that wasn't a good stand up. Especially as we saw Islam just holding Volk's back for 2 minutes doing nothing. At least Shevchenko was getting shots off!

I think this was a reaction to the fact they let Islam sit there doing nothing for 2 minutes.

I expect we’ll see them stand fighters up more often moving forward

 

[MMC]

 

[td_ice]

The Valentina Grasso fight was a good one. I didn't anticipate that, but Grasso came ready. And it definitely was more than capitalizing on that "one mistake" by VS. If Valentina doesn't tap there, and survives, it's 2-2 most likely going into round 5. With Grasso looking fresh. And VS maybe a bit tired, as her TDA's were becoming telegraphed.

 

[DuklaNation]

Ciryl Gane was an embarrassment. Poor effort, looked in over his head. Taken out so easily shows he was overrated. Even at post match conference, where was the emotion? Like Jon said, he was just happy to be there and get paid. On Jones, I don't think this adds anything to his legacy at all. Questions remain.

Bo Nickail looks very promising, can he take punishment? Still unanswered.

Shavkat looks incredible but I think he may be vulnerable to a good striker.

 

[m9]

Ciryl Gane was an embarrassment. Poor effort, looked in over his head. Taken out so easily shows he was overrated. Even at post match conference, where was the emotion? Like Jon said, he was just happy to be there and get paid. On Jones, I don't think this adds anything to his legacy at all. Questions remain.

Sometimes guys just get caught or just get beat by the better fighter. There's nothing to suggest it's an effort thing, or he's overrated, or that he was just happy to get paid. I just think you had an elite wrestler take down a bad wrestler and that's the result you get sometimes.

It does suggest there are some limitations to Gane's upside here though.

 

[m9]

The Valentina Grasso fight was a good one. I didn't anticipate that, but Grasso came ready. And it definitely was more than capitalizing on that "one mistake" by VS. If Valentina doesn't tap there, and survives, it's 2-2 most likely going into round 5. With Grasso looking fresh. And VS maybe a bit tired, as her TDA's were becoming telegraphed.

I would have to re-watch Round 4, but I don't think this makes sense to me. If I remember, Round 4 was seeming like a Shevchenko round before the mistake. The striking numbers correspond with that. You can't just say "if she survives" because the mistake led to the entire ground sequence and if she doesn't try that kick then none of that happens.