GDT: UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2

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Date: August 20, 2016
Venue: T-Mobile Arena
City: Las Vegas, Nevada
Time: 10pm ET/7pm PT
Viewing: PPV

MAIN CARD (PPV)

Welterweight bout: Nate Diaz vs. Conor McGregor
Light Heavyweight bout: Anthony Johnson vs. Glover Teixeira
Welterweight bout: Donald Cerrone vs. Rick Story
Welterweight bout: Hyun Gyu Lim vs. Mike Perry
Welterweight bout: Tim Means vs. Sabah Homasi

PRELIMINARY CARD (FS1, TSN 2)

Bantamweight bout: Cody Garbrandt vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Women's Bantamweight bout: Raquel Pennington vs. Elizabeth Phillips
Featherweight bout: Artem Lobov vs. Chris Avila
Women's Strawweight bout: Randa Markos vs. Cortney Casey

PRELIMINARY CARD (UFC Fight Pass)

Welterweight bout: Neil Magny vs. Lorenz Larkin
Welterweight bout: Colby Covington vs. Max Griffin
Bantamweight bout: Ning Guangyou vs. Marlon Vera
Middleweight bout: Alberto Uda vs. Marvin Vettori
 

Rocko604

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Diaz by submission. After that I see McGregor demanding a title fight at 155 and somehow, yet again, get out of fighting at 145.
 

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I like Conor but I don't see this going any differently than the first. He's not gonna all of a sudden develop the power to put Diaz away. He landed bomb after bomb on Diaz the first time and it wasn't enough. Diaz's size, length, and range are still gonna pose the same problems.

And not to discredit Conor at all, but he strikes me as having a bit of a bully mentality. What I mean by that is he's essentially fueled by his confidence. When that's there he presses forward, has that swagger, and his opponents succumb to it. But when they don't he seems to wilt.
 

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Excited for this one. There's at least five legit fights on this card. Should be an entertaining lead up as well so might as well get the thread started early.

I really have no idea what's going to happen in the main event. I think it could go either way. If I had to pick, I'm probably leaning towards Nate right now.
 

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If Conor doesn't land the home run in the first 2 rounds, he's toast. Doesn't have the cardio to maintain his game for 5 and will get eaten alive if he hangs back. Many like to bring up that first round, but I've watched it a few times, Conor hit a LOT of air shots and was always glancing Diaz. Even with the focused training, I don't think Diaz is as open as he was the first fight, because he too, has had a legit camp.

This cards gonna be sick.
 

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No idea why Dana is doing this main event. Diaz is going to crush McGregor again. With Brock gone, McGregor's reputation dented, Jones on the bench and Ronda in limbo, the Fertittas chose a perfect time to cash out. Diaz is about to kill their last golden goose.

More excited for Teixeira v Rumble. That's going to be ****ing chaos. Knockout of the century candidate.
 

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No idea why Dana is doing this main event. Diaz is going to crush McGregor again. With Brock gone, McGregor's reputation dented, Jones on the bench and Ronda in limbo, the Fertittas chose a perfect time to cash out. Diaz is about to kill their last golden goose.

More excited for Teixeira v Rumble. That's going to be ****ing chaos. Knockout of the century candidate.

The main event is great for the UFC as long as Conor wins. They still have the Aldo fight and then the Nate 3 fight would be big.

I really don't know what happens if he gets finished again. I guess he fights Aldo regardless, but that takes a bunch of the shine off that one.
 

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The main event is great for the UFC as long as Conor wins. They still have the Aldo fight and then the Nate 3 fight would be big.

I really don't know what happens if he gets finished again. I guess he fights Aldo regardless, but that takes a bunch of the shine off that one.

Yes and no. Dana and McGregor will use the whole "two weight class jump!" excuse if he loses again. He just cannot lose to Aldo. But if he were to, the "two weight class cut!" excuse will be used and we'll see a 3rd match vs Aldo. I realize I'm getting a little ahead of myself with that one.
 
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Agree that Diaz should be a slight favourite here. Conor's mental games clearly aren't going to give him an advantage in this one.
 

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I don't see the outcome of this fight hurting the UFC all that much. Conor can just go back down and defend his belt if he loses again. The rematch with Aldo will still be a big fight. On the other side of it, they'd have Nate who has become a pretty big star and will be an even bigger one if he wins again.
 

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Diaz wins again, then McGregor goes back down to 145 and starches Aldo again.
 

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I don't see the outcome of this fight hurting the UFC all that much. Conor can just go back down and defend his belt if he loses again. The rematch with Aldo will still be a big fight. On the other side of it, they'd have Nate who has become a pretty big star and will be an even bigger one if he wins again.

So what do you do with Nate if he wins again? He was never a great WW, and beating a FW twice isn't indicative of him at that weight either. Put him against someone like Maia or Condit, and I think he loses. Personally, I hope he goes back to 155 and he gets a title shot.
 

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Diaz isn't winning this one. If you guys don't remember, Conor was toying with him in the 1st round. At the end of it Conor could of put his suit back on and hit the club without nobody noticing he was just in a UFC fight.

He simply got way too cocky in round 2, didn't acknowledge 1 punch wasn't going to put Diaz out and then got caught with a clean shot that made him dizzy all the way to the tap-out.

Next time will be different.
 

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Diaz isn't winning this one. If you guys don't remember, Conor was toying with him in the 1st round. At the end of it Conor could of put his suit back on and hit the club without nobody noticing he was just in a UFC fight.

He simply got way too cocky in round 2, didn't acknowledge 1 punch wasn't going to put Diaz out and then got caught with a clean shot that made him dizzy all the way to the tap-out.

Next time will be different.
I didn't see any toying around. I love the Conor hype train so I hope I'm wrong but Diaz hurt him and Diaz could take every punch Conor through at him because he's a scrapper. This is going to be a really tough fight for Conor.
 

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So what do you do with Nate if he wins again? He was never a great WW, and beating a FW twice isn't indicative of him at that weight either. Put him against someone like Maia or Condit, and I think he loses. Personally, I hope he goes back to 155 and he gets a title shot.

That's what I'd like to see. I know there's talk out there that Khabib is getting the next shot but I still think it's possible they haven't announced anything for Alvarez yet because they want to see what happens in this fight.

We're also talking about a Diaz brother though so who knows what will happen. He has said many times he doesn't care about the belt and he only wants big fights. I could see him asking for someone like GSP, which would get him paid but he'd also lose a one-sided fight.
 

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Diaz isn't winning this one. If you guys don't remember, Conor was toying with him in the 1st round. At the end of it Conor could of put his suit back on and hit the club without nobody noticing he was just in a UFC fight.

He simply got way too cocky in round 2, didn't acknowledge 1 punch wasn't going to put Diaz out and then got caught with a clean shot that made him dizzy all the way to the tap-out.

Next time will be different.

I watched it two days ago. That's definitely not what happened.

Nate started slow because he had a super short camp and didn't spar at all. He got into the fight after three minutes, completely dominated the second round even before the clean shot. He started a little slow in the Michael Johnson fight too.
 

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Diaz isn't winning this one. If you guys don't remember, Conor was toying with him in the 1st round. At the end of it Conor could of put his suit back on and hit the club without nobody noticing he was just in a UFC fight.

He simply got way too cocky in round 2, didn't acknowledge 1 punch wasn't going to put Diaz out and then got caught with a clean shot that made him dizzy all the way to the tap-out.

Next time will be different.

I want what your smoking. Conor wasn't "toying" with anything, he was loading up his left the whole round while hitting mostly air and glancing shots. You can see him taking deep breaths at the bell, actually, I think he looked better at the beginning of round two than he did in round one. No cardio. Maybe you can enlighten me as to how he can turn 7 minutes of cardio into 25?
 

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I rewatched the first fight, Conor wasn't doing as good as i remembered him do. A lot of overreaching and missing his shots.

First round was pretty close.
2nd round was actually the best round for Conor in term of landing offense until he gets tired, rocked, tapped
 

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Diaz will destroy him yet again. I wonder how Conor will repair his image after another humiliation.
 

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Anyone know what Conor has been working on? I think he has viewed himself as a cerebral guy and I think he is smart enough to know just trying to knock Nate out isn't a winning strategy. So I'd be curious where he thought to focus his efforts.
 

tmurfin

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Anyone know what Conor has been working on? I think he has viewed himself as a cerebral guy and I think he is smart enough to know just trying to knock Nate out isn't a winning strategy. So I'd be curious where he thought to focus his efforts.

He's smart, but stubborn and egotistical. I wouldn't put it past him to try his same game plan and expect a different outcome. The problem is, if he does lay back and not pressure, Nate will walk him down and pepper him. I don't think he has the wrestling or the cardio to grind on Nate for 5 either. My best guess would be more of the same, I mean, it still might be his best bet considering the power he has.
 

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Apparently his camp pleaded with Connor to go back to down to his normal weight class, but he is determined/stubborn to have another go.
 

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He's smart, but stubborn and egotistical. I wouldn't put it past him to try his same game plan and expect a different outcome. The problem is, if he does lay back and not pressure, Nate will walk him down and pepper him. I don't think he has the wrestling or the cardio to grind on Nate for 5 either. My best guess would be more of the same, I mean, it still might be his best bet considering the power he has.

Problem is, Connor's power isn't anything special at WW where there's a lot of more powerful punchers.

Connor's cardio is frustrating, he looked fine wrestling Holloway, but now he's gassing so quickly.
 

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