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Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part IV

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EverettMike said:
Also goes to show how skewed the numbers are to modern goaltenders, which is why "all time save percentage" doesn't mean quite what people think it does.

I'd love to see those numbers weighted to their eras, the way Pedro's ERA in '99 and '00 are technically not the lowest ever, but are still the best ever.
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Also goes to show what a monster Hasek was. I think there's an argument that he was 5th best player of all time.
 
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treebugger said:
Also goes to show what a monster Hasek was. I think there's an argument that he was 5th best player of all time.
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God I f***ing hated him.

Which is why I've always been reluctant to admit how good he was. Not sure I'd go top 5, but at his best he might have been the best goalie ever. Definitely a legit argument.
 

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He is on a hot streak and I'll give him that, but lets not forget he started 4-15-2 I believe. Still not ready to throw him or the team a parade yet as they really have not accomplished anything. That being said they are fun to watch and I admire this team as they don't give up and work there butts off!!

I want to see Rask push this through a full season, not just 15-20 games in the middle of the year.
 
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Ryan77 said:
He is on a hot streak and I'll give him that, but lets not forget he started 4-15-2 I believe. Still not ready to throw him or the team a parade yet as they really have not accomplished anything. That being said they are fun to watch and I admire this team as they don't give up and work there butts off!!

I want to see Rask push this through a full season, not just 15-20 games in the middle of the year.
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Exactly. The fact that he is only the NHL all-time leader in career save percentage, just above Hasek and Dryden, tells me that this 15-20 games of dominant play in the middle of the season could be a fluke. Really worried about him being 13-0-2 in his last 15 games because that's not very indicative of how the NHL all-time career save percentage goalie performs.
 
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Ryan77 said:
He is on a hot streak and I'll give him that, but lets not forget he started 4-15-2 I believe. Still not ready to throw him or the team a parade yet as they really have not accomplished anything. That being said they are fun to watch and I admire this team as they don't give up and work there butts off!!

I want to see Rask push this through a full season, not just 15-20 games in the middle of the year.
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Looks like others beat me to it, reminding young Ryan that Rask only has 8 losses on the season. It's always nice to let an agenda get in the way of a good point though.
 
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Ryan77 said:
He is on a hot streak and I'll give him that, but lets not forget he started 4-15-2 I believe. Still not ready to throw him or the team a parade yet as they really have not accomplished anything. That being said they are fun to watch and I admire this team as they don't give up and work there butts off!!

I want to see Rask push this through a full season, not just 15-20 games in the middle of the year.
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4-15-2

Yah ok
 
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missingchicklet said:
Exactly. The fact that he is only the NHL all-time leader in career save percentage, just above Hasek and Dryden, tells me that this 15-20 games of dominant play in the middle of the season could be a fluke. Really worried about him being 13-0-2 in his last 15 games because that's not very indicative of how the NHL all-time career save percentage goalie performs.
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This fact keeps coming up but its really misleading.

The save percentage stat wasn't an official statistic in the NHL until 1983-84. So none of the old timers are considered. Hall, Plante, Sawchuk, Bower, Durnan, Brimsek, Dryden all probably had better save percentages. And because the 1980s and early 90s were so wide open, the save percentage's of the best goalies that played in that era are like the worst goalies today.

Consider, of the top 22 goalies listed in career save percentage, 19 are playing right now. The other three were Hasek , Tim Thomas and Tomas Vokoun.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
This fact keeps coming up but its really misleading.

The save percentage stat wasn't an official statistic in the NHL until 1983-84. So none of the old timers are considered. Hall, Plante, Sawchuk, Bower, Durnan, Brimsek, Dryden all probably had better save percentages. And because the 1980s and early 90s were so wide open, the save percentage's of the best goalies that played in that era are like the worst goalies today.

Consider, of the top 22 goalies listed in career save percentage, 19 are playing right now. The other three were Hasek , Tim Thomas and Tomas Vokoun.
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Nonetheless, Rask is still number one, above all of the dozens of goalies who have played since the stat was made official. Dryden's pct. was below Tuukka's according to Quanthockey, btw.
 

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Sorry type-0

4-8-2....not 4-15-2

My point was simple, Rask is playing well but before everyone here jumps on the HE'S THE BEST..lets at least finish the season see what happens.
 
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He could quietly push himself into Vezina consideration at this rate. Vas is starting to fall off and Crawford is out. A lot of people are going Bob again but it's a mess at the top otherwise.
 
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Rask is one of the best goalies ever . Real numbers don't lie. My eyesight isn't so poor that I don't see it game after game.

Every professional athlete will have a slump or two ,no big deal ,it happens
 
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Seidenbergy said:
He's 16-8-4 on the season (which means he started the season with a 3-8-2 record). Where on Earth are you getting your numbers? Drunk or using common core math?
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I vote drunk, because I always vote for drunk!
 

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jgatie said:
So you mistakenly typed a '1', then a '5', instead of just an '8'?

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Yeah . . OK.
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Umm yes that is what happened. As I stated It was a type-0. It can happen quite easily on a smart phone. Apologies it effected so many peoples day on this board.
 
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Ryan77 said:
Umm yes that is what happened. As I stated It was a type-0. It can happen quite easily on a smart phone. Apologies it effected so many peoples day on this board.
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It happens..... I’ve been known to say I have a 15”............ er, .........foot.......

Joking here. Just having some fun.
 
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