The thing is that we lack Alpha on the team. Eichel was in the alpha role with the Sabres, as ROR wasn’t ROR yet. Once Eichel went to Vegas, he plays the scoring role as Stone, Mass and even Pietra are the alphas on the team.
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Honestly, I'd take a pretty soft package as long as it came with a lot of capspace. We're not getting a home run trade at this point, but we can still get some useful pieces, a good chunk of capspace, and a culture/roster construction change (which this stale team needs - tinkering around the edges hasn't worked).
We should have traded him 4-5 years ago when his value was much higher, but now he's a UFA in a year and his playoff hockey just continues to get showcased to the league, so I imagine his value is down.
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I think we should try and target a guy like a Brandon Montour this off-season. Rielly clearly can't QB a #1 PP to the capability that is needed during the playoffs and Montour would add some much needed mobility to our backend as well.
Also, I hope we move on from Marner this offseason and maybe finally acquire a steady goalie.
Also, I hope we move on from Marner this offseason and maybe finally acquire a steady goalie.
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We would have to take on a bunch of short-term contracts, unfortunately.
I'd rather Marner leave for nothing than take on Seth Jones' contract.
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we could probably retain on Marner as well to considering ge only has 1 year left
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Good point.
The one thing we can't do is take up long-term bad contracts. Short-term is fine because this team is screwed until Captain Mumbles gets off the books anyways.
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yeah. I imagine if we retained 2 - 3 mil on Marner, there would be no shortage of suites, even considering his playoff struggles.
As much as Marner takes the heat, I’d argue that at they all fail in the playoffs. Heck, Matthews was sick? Bergeron(?) played through a punctured lung, one of them did. I don’t know, but my frustration is high. People dog JT, but to my eyes he’s the one who tries the most, it just ain’t there anymore and we knew that would happen. Nylander’s first game back and there was a board battle behind the Bruins net in the 2nd and Willy glides up and simply stands there, watching and doing sfa. I’m an old fart, love watching talented players, but I do miss that ‘do anything’ nature we so obviously lack. None of them have it.
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Only owed $775K after July 1st so it is like you get a free year. The team you trade him to has to agree to resign him for the Leafs to get back market value. See PLD trade.
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That's one of the biggest needs and has been for a long time. A legitimate shot from the point on the PP to keep the other team honest and give up some space for our forwards.
That's one of the main reasons our PP is effective in the regular season but in the playoffs, it is nullified.
Teams just clog the middle of the ice as we don’t have a threat from the outside. It’s been happening for years and we keep failing to address the issue, along with a lot of other issues this roster has. The only time this team addressed a glaring issue was acquiring Muzzin and unfortunately that didn’t last long due to him getting injured.
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50% retained for a player on their ELC would be a dream scenario. He would look good in Pavelski's spot on Dallas' top line. Marner 50% retained+Robertson for Stankoven+Bourque.
Something around Marner for Zegras + Gudas?
I’ll be honest, I don’t watch the Ducks play so I’m not sure if Zegras is actually a good player but I do want a 2C back in a trade.
I’ll be honest, I don’t watch the Ducks play so I’m not sure if Zegras is actually a good player but I do want a 2C back in a trade.
Terrible deal for us.
I think you need to get a top pairing D back and one who has a shot from the point. Montour is a great target.
There are tons of trading options, a 3rd team probably has to get involved to eat some salary. I don't think Marner's NMC is going to stand in the way here (Paul is a different story), Mitch would most likely welcome a move at this point.
I would do extended Marner for Mctavish if he would go there.
Verbeek said he’s was looking for a top line rw.
Could also do a trade with la.
Pld/clarke would be bold.
Fiala 1 for 1. Would give us 4 million in cap.
Seattle for wright.
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I like the Dallas ideas. I also like the Ottawa ideas.
Here's mine:
Ottawa
Marner
Liljegren
Toronto
Batherson
Chabot
Why Ottawa does it: they need to get into the playoffs. Badly. Having a 100 point winger will help them tremendously to achieve this goal. He may even perform in the playoffs with different linemates, expectations and systems. Both Mitch and Lily need a change of scenery. Lily, although he's not Chabot, has shown signs of being a solid top-4 guy and may reach that goal in a different system. They don't seem to have faith in him over here. Both guys need a psychological boost/change. Also, there's talk that Chabot may have to be traded this summer due to the team not being able to allocate so much money into the backend. Chychrun is an RD, which may make the team prioritize signing him over Chabot. Lily is a very cost-effective option for the Sens.
Why Toronto does it: Chabot and Batherson are both big guys who seem to have the drive. Batherson is a 60+ point, 25-30 goal type of guy. He's not Marner, but he gives you great value for a $4,975.000 cap hit until 2029. He has plenty of room to grow and may reach another level with Matthews. Chabot is another great skating, offensive, puck-carrying defender that we need to help out Rielly and to balance out the team (I'd keep Edmonson, Boosh, and Benoit).
The cap hit is very similar going in and out. Ottawa takes less money in next year, but we benefit when Marner needs a raise the year after.
The Marners live in Markham. That's less than a 4 hour drive to Ottawa. Overbearing Paul gets to drive over to watch all of the games - enjoying many Timmys stops on the way.
Here's mine:
Ottawa
Marner
Liljegren
Toronto
Batherson
Chabot
Why Ottawa does it: they need to get into the playoffs. Badly. Having a 100 point winger will help them tremendously to achieve this goal. He may even perform in the playoffs with different linemates, expectations and systems. Both Mitch and Lily need a change of scenery. Lily, although he's not Chabot, has shown signs of being a solid top-4 guy and may reach that goal in a different system. They don't seem to have faith in him over here. Both guys need a psychological boost/change. Also, there's talk that Chabot may have to be traded this summer due to the team not being able to allocate so much money into the backend. Chychrun is an RD, which may make the team prioritize signing him over Chabot. Lily is a very cost-effective option for the Sens.
Why Toronto does it: Chabot and Batherson are both big guys who seem to have the drive. Batherson is a 60+ point, 25-30 goal type of guy. He's not Marner, but he gives you great value for a $4,975.000 cap hit until 2029. He has plenty of room to grow and may reach another level with Matthews. Chabot is another great skating, offensive, puck-carrying defender that we need to help out Rielly and to balance out the team (I'd keep Edmonson, Boosh, and Benoit).
The cap hit is very similar going in and out. Ottawa takes less money in next year, but we benefit when Marner needs a raise the year after.
The Marners live in Markham. That's less than a 4 hour drive to Ottawa. Overbearing Paul gets to drive over to watch all of the games - enjoying many Timmys stops on the way.
My offseason:
1. Fire Keefe
2. Fire Shanahan
3. Hire new coach: Brind'Amour (still not signed to extension), Berube or Quennville
4. Go at it one more time with new coach
5. Let Tavares and Marner walk at end of season as UFA, use the cap savings to re-tool on the fly
1. Fire Keefe
2. Fire Shanahan
3. Hire new coach: Brind'Amour (still not signed to extension), Berube or Quennville
4. Go at it one more time with new coach
5. Let Tavares and Marner walk at end of season as UFA, use the cap savings to re-tool on the fly
Marner for Jones, our first and 2nd (Chi or the one they acquired)
I wouldn't want Jones, but it feels like a Leafs move to acquire an overrated player about to turn 30 in a positional need.
Mitch gets to play with a phenom in Bedard in an original 6 market. Chicago has the draft capital to spare.
I wouldn't want Jones, but it feels like a Leafs move to acquire an overrated player about to turn 30 in a positional need.
Mitch gets to play with a phenom in Bedard in an original 6 market. Chicago has the draft capital to spare.
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If it were last year, it would be around $8m.
Now, $5m-$6m is my guess, depending on the term.
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Pretty much my 1 year plan right now as well. Berube is a good bet to replace Keefe, not so much Quenneville or Brind'Amour. If he was available last off-season, I think the Leafs make the change then. Another option might be Sullivan from the Penguins, but he hasn't been let go so it doesn't feel likely.
I don't even care about Shanahan staying/going. Might as well just let his deal expire instead of scrambling for a new President. That way you can take your time to find a good replacement and he'll be able to oversee a pretty interesting retool if the Leafs use their money wisely. Hell, I'd put Treliving as President and promote/hire someone else to GM like a Tulsky or someone with a great resume.
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