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12.5 for 8, you down?He's also a mid 20's 100 point 2-way winger, a there's money to chop before you get to him
12.5 for 8, you down?He's also a mid 20's 100 point 2-way winger, a there's money to chop before you get to him
What asset do we have to get him?Any chance Brad would look at Rossi?
5 9. 20 goals at 22. Not a great player but cheap top 6 c? To get us through the last tavares year?
He's not waiving, so we are good with him walking?12.5 for 8, you down?
Sam Jose doesn't have enough core pieces yet to start trading away draft picks for roster pieces yet. Smith is basically their only cornerstone type piece. Everything else is secondary type pieces. They are better off continuing what they are doing and stock pile prospects.Are any of these outlandish?
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I feel like San Jose would trade some picks for younger guys that can play now.
Preferably not, but the bolded is TBD.He's not waiving, so we are good with him walking?
Yes, it's a ton of money but talent like his is hard to aquire12.5 for 8, you down?
No, his or their talent isn't in question; that's not the issue. For me, I couldn't commit to that to him, as well as having Matthews and Nylander locked into fairly ironclad deals.Yes, it's a ton of money but talent like his is hard to aquire
Columbus main need is at the C position, so it's highly doubtful that they move a C, for another winger. Not only that, Marner isn't waiving for Columbus.View attachment 844050
Moved Marner to jackets for jenner and Werenski traded a first for markstrom .Ya got a few elc players but we need them to take the step. Things can get even better once jt money comes off following year.
No, his or their talent isn't in question; that's not the issue. For me, I couldn't commit to that to him, as well as having Matthews and Nylander locked into fairly ironclad deals.
They, as a group, just haven't done enough, IMO.
No, his or their talent isn't in question; that's not the issue. For me, I couldn't commit to that to him, as well as having Matthews and Nylander locked into fairly ironclad deals.
They, as a group, just haven't done enough, IMO.
Minnesota seems to need those types. Why would they want to move him?Any chance Brad would look at Rossi?
5 9. 20 goals at 22. Not a great player but cheap top 6 c? To get us through the last tavares year?
Which is why it's better to trade him.If Marner walks to free-agency, I think that's a really hard sell to Matthews..
Been there, have the T-shirt,You can build a team around elite talent and those three are still young enough I'd be willing to bet on them and trust myself to do enough around them
Do you keep Liljegren? How much should we spend back there? Do we need a rethink on the types of guys we have back there, should we look to trade for some young defenseman that are struggling?
He's a Toronto kid, wife and family all from there. If they ask him to waive, he's saying no. He has no reason to waive no matter what the team does. That's TBD in your mind only - he has zero motivation to do so.Preferably not, but the bolded is TBD.
If they go out early and rather meekly, again. Then everything should be on the table, even if it may hurt some feelings.
He will feel disrespected, say no, and then head straight to UFA next year to get every single last dollar he can.Doubt Marner waives his NTC but I’d explore that route if we have another playoff disappointment.
It's probably close but I doubt San Jose is ready to trade picks of any kind yet
My biggest problem was what to do with Jarnkrok and his 2.1M, he's good value but there's bugger all money to send out I can spend elsewhere so I ended up trading Liljegren, Robertson,, Kampf, Reeves
He will feel disrespected, say no, and then head straight to UFA next year to get every single last dollar he can.
So at that point the relationship is damaged, so why not screw over the team that is disrespecting you?
Almost every NMC player that gets traded either requests a trade themselves, or will only go to a team that is in a better situation to win the cup.
Not necessarily, he could choose the AM route and go shorter waiting for the cap to jump.Getting every last dollar he can would involve getting an 8th year by picking some trade destinations.
Marner is a Toronto boy who's family resides in Toronto, there's no way in hell he's waiving
He's also a mid 20's 100 point 2-way winger, a there's money to chop before you get to him
The forward group is in a good place, we've built some cheap depth and there's guys coming we just need to sort out the backend
Do you keep Liljegren? How much should we spend back there? Do we need a rethink on the types of guys we have back there, should we look to trade for some young defenseman that are struggling?
I feel like the once in a century COVID outbreak isn't a high likelihood this timeWhich is why it's better to trade him.
Been there, have the T-shirt,
They should re-sign him. He's a RHD and we know what we have in him and potential is there yet. Those can be a premium. I'd also look to re-structure the D. They should have more than enough cap space to do so. Matt Roy would be a main target should he hit free-agency due to his defensive ability and size. Carrier, DeMelo, Pesce, Tanev would all be strong targets also to fill in on the RHD.
The way I look at it...next year is going to be a setback one for the Leafs.
The mid-tier players in this league that are upcoming UFAs are going to get PAID with the cap jumping, but the Leafs already over-committed their cap increase to Matthews & Nylander.
They've gotta start building and focusing on 25-26, which to me, would mean that you shoudl probably cash out on the positive value that Jarnkrok likely holds, accumulating draft picks.
Get Robertson, Knies, Minten and Cowan into the lineup on a full time, and meaningful basis. Bobby McMann should have a spot. There's 9 / 12 spots spoken for with the big 4. If Max Domi wants to sign a 3-year deal at reasonable money, you probably do that and maybe move on from David Kampf as well.
Spend the limited cap dollars the Leafs have on finding a real, long term solution on the right side of their D.
Come back the year after with all these young guys having experienced a year of development, and with a bunch of cap space freed up by John Tavares.
That question is a symptom of the Leafs problem -- which is that they are seemingly building their defence from the bottom-up.
At $1.35m, Benoit has to be an every night player for you. That means 1 of 2 things -- either your bottom pair is Benoit-McCabe, or McCabe is a top-4 defenceman.
Philosophically, I don't think the Leafs should have a "problem" if their D is:
Rielly - XXX
McCabe-Liljegren
Benoit - YYY
But, in order for that format to be successful, I don't think XXX can be Ilya Lyubushkin, or YYY be Connor Timmins. They've gotta get one guy that is at leas significantly better than those 2.
It's a "cop out" answer, but I think it really depends on who might be available in the trade market, and wherther Liljegren is a piece that the other team truly desires.
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Moved Marner to jackets for jenner and Werenski traded a first for markstrom .Ya got a few elc players but we need them to take the step. Things can get even better once jt money comes off following year.
Why not dump them instead or as well?No, his or their talent isn't in question; that's not the issue. For me, I couldn't commit to that to him, as well as having Matthews and Nylander locked into fairly ironclad deals.
They, as a group, just haven't done enough, IMO.