Proposal: Trade Thread Part 57

[Kwikwi]

So sad that 2 threads ago it was Mantha OEL
Last thread Laine
This thread Anderson...

 

[Ozmodiar]

I am not against getting bigger wingers but I am against getting a winger that has both shoulders injured and is a HUGE question mark. If we can't find a game breaking forward we stay the course but thinking Anderson is going to some how make this team a playoff team when he is basically one check or one hit away from going on LTIR is just foolish. If we are going to get a big size winger at least aim for players that games played and can actually stay on the ice for us.

If you took the time to read my post you would know that I suggested they get the specialists to check him out.
Of course, feel free to play doctor.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

If you took the time to read my post you would know that I suggested they get the specialists to check him out.
Of course, feel free to play doctor.

Or we can get Buch who is the same size and has a scoring touch and is slightly younger and doesn't have all those injury problems? Also check my previous post I added two forwards we can actually get and it wouldn't cost us an arm and a leg.

 

[BergevinBurner]

So sad that 2 threads ago it was Mantha OEL
Last thread Laine
This thread Anderson...

At least we'll probably have answers by the next thread.

 

[Trembz]

So sad that 2 threads ago it was Mantha OEL
Last thread Laine
This thread Anderson...

All this and its not even draft day yet!

 

[Ozmodiar]

Or we can get Buch who is the same size and has a scoring touch and is slightly younger and doesn't have all those injury problems? Also check my previous post I added two forwards we can actually get and it wouldn't cost us an arm and a leg.

Sure, even better. But likely more costly.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Sure, even better. But likely more costly.

Costly in what way? what we are giving up? our 1st is nothing honestly and Domi has no place on this team and we flip him for a player that fills a need. Then we can roll three lines keeping Princess Danault with Tatar and Gallagher and having Suzuki and KK play with at least one of Rakell and Buch.

Also both these trades have already been discussed between the Ducks and Rangers fans and both are actually willing to do the trades. If we are going to use assets we might as well use them on Buch and Rakell and not waste whatever it is going to take to get Anderson.

 

[Habricot]

Costly in what way? what we are giving up? our 1st is nothing honestly and Domi has no place on this team and we flip him for a player that fills a need. Then we can roll three lines keeping Princess Danault with Tatar and Gallagher and having Suzuki and KK play with at least one of Rakell and Buch.

Also both these trades have already been discussed between the Ducks and Rangers fans and both are actually willing to do the trades. If we are going to use assets we might as well use them on Buch and Rakell and not waste whatever it is going to take to get Anderson.

Fans and the sctual GM are two very different thing...

 

[CapSpace]

Ok so.... Where is the point that we should capitalize on it?

Send them butterball Mete, I guess?

 

[sampollock]

So sad that 2 threads ago it was Mantha OEL
Last thread Laine
This thread Anderson...

It's the song that keeps giving

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Fans and the sctual GM are two very different thing...

Yeah and we are on a hockey forum all we can do is discuss fake trades what's your point?

 

[Positive Vibes]

im cautiously optomistic about this off season for us, really hope im not let down this time.

 

[Archijerej]

I am not against getting bigger wingers but I am against getting a winger that has both shoulders injured and is a HUGE question mark.

Exactly.

Anderson makes sense only as a buy-low option. Spending significant assets on him is too risky.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Looks like Klefbom could be out for a very long time.

Anyway we could capitalize on that?

Kulak+ for Poolparty.

 

[Positive Vibes]

really want rakell on this team think he would thrive here

 

[SpezNc2]

I could name you hundred of times people saying ''hes on pace'' huehuehueuhehuueh

and 99% of the time people get dissapointed. No wonder this team sucks.

63 games is a pretty strong sample. I agree some people are using “pace” a bit too much. “Pace” need to be put under perspective. But in this case the point is that he can put goal on the scoresheet. He also bring an element we lack. Does adding Anderson solve all our problems? Of course not. No one is believing that. But I do think that an healthy Anderson improve our team. The main question is “is he healthy?” and “what is the price?”. If healthy and the price is right, it’s definitely worth considering.

Bottom line is pace with less than 20 games is not relevant. It’s fun but not relevant.

Pace with 60+ games is more telling.

 

[SpezNc2]

Byron scores at a higher rate than Anderson does at 5v5, both over the last 3 years and in the 3 years prior to this one (because of the injuries I felt like it should be included). While I think Anderson would be a valuable addition to the Habs (RW isn't exactly a position of strength), don't expect him to be much better (or even just better overall) than Lehkonen or Byron. All 3 of them are similar caliber players.

I would argue they all bring a different skillset. Their production could be similar but they are not the same player.

 

[SpezNc2]

J.T. Miller got traded for a 1st + 3rd last year at the age of 26. He had 56 and 58 point seasons under his belt. The 1st became the 20th overall pick.

Mantha is currently 26. He's never been healthy enough or consistent enough to crack 50.

Detroit is not competing any time soon. I think the 16th overall + B prospect should get it done.

I think the price would be higher.

The B prospect better be good.

Who are you considering as “B prospect”?

Romanov, Caufield are definitely “A”.

Norlinder, Poehling, Primeau as “A” or “B” in your opinion?

Harris, Struble, Ylonen, Brook, Hillis qualify as B?

Olofsson, Ikonen, Pitlick, Khisamudinov, Stapley are “C”?

 

[SpezNc2]

What would be your max offer for Puljujarvi? Was listening on the radio today David Ettegui on the show of Laraque and Gonzales and really thought it’s make a lot of sense.

He could be obtain and we have the assets and would not necessarily cost us Domi.

Hs is big, young, cheap and can score. Obviously he is unproven. Otherwise would not be available. With KK and Lekhonen this could be a very good line IMHO.

I would probably be crucified here but I may even be “tempted” to put the 16th pick in play. Would obviously start with a pair of 2nd rounder but if I am Kenny Holland I don’t two it only for 2nd rounders.

 

[mynamejeff420]

I would argue they all bring a different skillset. Their production could be similar but they are not the same player.

Yeah fair enough. Like I said I would like to have Anderson on the Habs, but I don't expect him to be anything other than a similar caliber player to guys like Byron or Lehkonen (not that that's a bad thing, I think they get underrated by Habs fans).

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

63 games is a pretty strong sample. I agree some people are using “pace” a bit too much. “Pace” need to be put under perspective. But in this case the point is that he can put goal on the scoresheet. He also bring an element we lack. Does adding Anderson solve all our problems? Of course not. No one is believing that. But I do think that an healthy Anderson improve our team. The main question is “is he healthy?” and “what is the price?”. If healthy and the price is right, it’s definitely worth considering.

Bottom line is pace with less than 20 games is not relevant. It’s fun but not relevant.

Pace with 60+ games is more telling.

Ok we get rid of Domi on the wings , replace him by Anderson. Because god knows Tatar Gallagher and Drouin are not traded.
Anderson ends up with 35points. Domi gave us around 45-55~. How does this help the team at all. I get it ''he has size'' Armia is 6'3 and soft like Hal Gill. If you want a winning roster you dont put Anderson into a top 6.

Look what happened this season when Armia played in the top 6 and pp. 24th. Those are 3rd liners for a reason. They are the player that can fill up an injury for like 4-5 games and then they go back to their bottom 6 mood.

I just feel like this player will not fill anything unless he was a center on a 3rd line or we trade armia to replace him.

They are several players for had one year wonder seasons. No need to name them all to get to my point. Habs should be looking for a 3rd center if Danault is traded and a winger better than anything we have right now. A real first liner.

 

[Vachon23]

J.T. Miller got traded for a 1st + 3rd last year at the age of 26. He had 56 and 58 point seasons under his belt. The 1st became the 20th overall pick.

Mantha is currently 26. He's never been healthy enough or consistent enough to crack 50.

Detroit is not competing any time soon. I think the 16th overall + B prospect should get it done.

It’s not that easy. Miller was with Tampa who didn’t had money to sign him and they where stack.

Mantha is there only good player with Larkin and they have alote of capspace

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I KNOW it won’t happen so please spare me the “it’ll never happen” retorts but, wouldn’t it be fun to see Bergevin offer Svechnikov the same offer he gave Aho just to see Carolina’s reaction. Lol.

Worst case scenario is they let him go, we have a power winger for a decade and we trade Domi for a 1st to raise cap and add to the prospect pool.

If only...

If he was a RFA this year and again front loaded bonuses might get him as that’s a shitload of cash to put out with no gate revenue

I expect something around Alzner + B prospect/pick for Erickson + Virtanen. Julien will think he can kick start Loui and get a big body for the extra cap

 

[Sterling Archer]

If he was a RFA this year and again front loaded bonuses might get him as that’s a shitload of cash to put out with no gate revenue

I expect something around Alzner + B prospect/pick for Erickson + Virtanen. Julien will think he can kick start Loui and get a big body for the extra cap

I truly hope not.

 

[habsfan891]

If he was a RFA this year and again front loaded bonuses might get him as that’s a shitload of cash to put out with no gate revenue

I expect something around Alzner + B prospect/pick for Erickson + Virtanen. Julien will think he can kick start Loui and get a big body for the extra cap

Unless Eriksson has only 1 year left thats a hard pass from me his cap hit is terrible id rather bury Alzner for another 2 years.