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Doesn't matter what bergy thinks, this team is more than likely taking a small step back while the young guns continue to develop. Maybe not top 5 but top 10 is a real possibility imo
Proposal: Trade Thread: Off-season edition 2
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Adam Michaels
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Well folks, I can confirm with you that Eichel is on his way out of Montreal with his hockey sticks.
I work at a private airport and he is here at this moment waiting to fly out.
I work at a private airport and he is here at this moment waiting to fly out.
Pompeius Magnus
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Adam Michaels
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I kidnapped the pilots. He's got nowhere to go now.
Pompeius Magnus
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We'll all send you thank you cards in prison, you did the right thing
sampollock
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ask him, when he is coming to wear the CH
KevSkillz4
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Deebs
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It isn't and unless he signs an extension to go along with a trade, we shouldn't try to acquire him
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Adam Michaels
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We'll all send you thank you cards in prison, you did the right thing
I'll get a prison tattoo.
"I did it for HF and I'd do it again!"
Goalfield22
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Hertl would be amazing, but I doubt he waives his NTC to come here. We can only hope.
Quick, give him a poutine and chat him up about the benefits of living and playing in Montreal!
Looking at the last few blockbuster trades
Erik Karlsson got a much of players and picks
Ryan Oreilly got a bunch of players
Ottawa received forwards Chris Tierney and Rudolfs Balcers, defenseman Dylan DeMelo, the rights to unsigned forward Joshua Norris, a first-round pick in the 2019 NHL Draft or 2020 NHL Draft, a second-round pick in the 2019 draft, and two conditional draft picks.
Buffalo receives forwards Patrik Berglund, Vladimir Sobotka and Tage Thompson, a first-round pick in the 2019 NHL Draft, and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.
I think Jack Eichel trade will be closer to Erik Karlsson than Ryan Oreilly trade.
let’s see what is equivalent to the Karlsson trade….
Chris Tierney = I’m thinking someone like Jake Evans
R Balcers = maybe a Jessi Ylonen
Dylan DeMelo = we don’t have anyone like him
Josh Norris = we don’t have anyone like him
first round pick = yes
2nd round pick = yes
this is why I think a prospect like Alex Romanov must be part of the Eichel deal. Also a player like Jan Mysak or Ryan Poehling might also be included.
So we talking Jack Eichel and prospect for Jake Evans, Alex Romanov, Jessi Ylonen, Ryan Poehling, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick. Basically a combination of roster players and prospects.
not to mention cap space so a player like Drouin will need to be traded to Arizona.
Erik Karlsson got a much of players and picks
Ryan Oreilly got a bunch of players
Ottawa received forwards Chris Tierney and Rudolfs Balcers, defenseman Dylan DeMelo, the rights to unsigned forward Joshua Norris, a first-round pick in the 2019 NHL Draft or 2020 NHL Draft, a second-round pick in the 2019 draft, and two conditional draft picks.
Buffalo receives forwards Patrik Berglund, Vladimir Sobotka and Tage Thompson, a first-round pick in the 2019 NHL Draft, and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.
I think Jack Eichel trade will be closer to Erik Karlsson than Ryan Oreilly trade.
let’s see what is equivalent to the Karlsson trade….
Chris Tierney = I’m thinking someone like Jake Evans
R Balcers = maybe a Jessi Ylonen
Dylan DeMelo = we don’t have anyone like him
Josh Norris = we don’t have anyone like him
first round pick = yes
2nd round pick = yes
this is why I think a prospect like Alex Romanov must be part of the Eichel deal. Also a player like Jan Mysak or Ryan Poehling might also be included.
So we talking Jack Eichel and prospect for Jake Evans, Alex Romanov, Jessi Ylonen, Ryan Poehling, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick. Basically a combination of roster players and prospects.
not to mention cap space so a player like Drouin will need to be traded to Arizona.
If we lose jko, I'd be on the phone with Minny...
Rask & Dumba would be great fits.
Rask isn't a long term solution but would help the short term C depth, while Dumba would fill the big need of top 4 pmd...
Rask & Dumba would be great fits.
Rask isn't a long term solution but would help the short term C depth, while Dumba would fill the big need of top 4 pmd...
Prairie Habs
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Rask is terrible. 4M for 39 points in his 120 games with the Wild. We might as well just gamble that KK will earn his 6M at that point.
The Wild also bought out Suter so that they would be able to protect Dumba, so no chance they move him now.
the players you mention dont prevent a lottery pick/finish
they are all band aid plugs
do yout really think those players make the team more competative?
allen was here last season and was average at best, the team finished 18th OA
hoffman in tatar out
savard in weber out
lost danault, lost kk
how is that any better than the team that finished 18th?
this summer is quite possibly the worst one in MBs tenure
this is even worse than the radulov/markov exitus
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There was much more to that buy out than protecting any of their other assets...
Yes, Rask is not great. Taking him back would be in part to provide stop gap C depth, in part to soften the cost for Dumba for eating Rask's 4M cap hit.
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Habs Halifax
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He's a UFA at the end of the next season. If you make a move like this and also end up being able to extend him, do you think he moves the needle for us to be a playoff team? He's a solid top 6 player and I value him but he's a piece I would consider at the deadline... if you know you have a good shot at the playoffs.
Imagine... after 12 months, we got no Danault, KK, Poehling, Hertl, and a 1st. We can not, we must not be desperate for a center. What's done is done and don't make it worse. Aside from Eichel, there is no center or PMD we can trade for that moves us into a playoff team after loosing Weber and Danault. This should be a re-set season
Habs Halifax
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Basically we should be staying in the mix for Eichel. May or may not work. If not, just keep the youth. There is no other center that we can trade for that moves our needle into the playoffs. Accept that we have issues to deal with and just play out the year and see what happens. It's not detrimental if we don't make the playoffs this coming season.
Dvorak is a decent option for 4 years but only if the price to acquire is something we can live without.
I would be on the phone with SJ - Hertl is a very good player, and if we could extend him Poehling +1st isn't close imho.
See if they prefer KK at 6.1 or the 1st/3rd as a starting point. We will need to add to that (one of Struble/Guhle?). If they prefer the 1st &3rd, we could possibly dump cap (Drouin) as part of the deal.
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I'd be happy with that top 6
See if they prefer KK at 6.1 or the 1st/3rd as a starting point. We will need to add to that (one of Struble/Guhle?). If they prefer the 1st &3rd, we could possibly dump cap (Drouin) as part of the deal.
Hoffman-Hertl-Anderson
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I'd be happy with that top 6
blarneylad
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A 1st and 3rd is worth more than Poehling and a 1st??
Poehling is a 1st round pick. Plus throw a pick in? We might as well just trade all of our 1st round picks if these prospects are going to be worth less than a 1st round pick after they are chosen.
Caufield the only good 1st round pick in a decade?
I would like to target Hertl too though he would be a good add
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