Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXI

[RAFI BOMB]

Deslauriers would be a fun addition. We could use a bit more toughness.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Connor Brown then one of Lassi and JBD ahould be close.

Can Pittsburgh afford to re sign Brown? What a nice fit he'd be there.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I don’t think many teams are trading non-lottery protected 1sts for 2023.

I'd go further than that and make it top-10 protected for the 2023 first. That draft looks really good.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Targeting Martin Frk and Stefan Noesen for two way contracts would be great. They both had phenomenal seasons in the AHL last year and would provide some excellent organizational depth. Maybe Bowness can help add some real talent to Belleville.

 

[rt]

Yotes fan, here. Congrats on the DeBrincat trade. I noticed that it didn’t seem to put the Chychrun rumors to rest, which surprised me. Wondering what you all would be willing to give for Chychrun?

From a Coyotes perspective, I know they’re looking at a goalie prospect. So I’m sure they’d be asking for Sogaard. I think they’d be willing to accept some conditions on the ‘23 1st (maybe it slides to ‘24 if it’s a top 10 pick?). I also think they’d be willing to take on Zaitsev and/or Murray, if need be. I do think the big prize they’d really be set on is Ridly Greig. I don’t think they’d want Formenton. Not after the Mitch Miller debacle.

Would you guys do Zaitsev/Murray+Greig+Sogaard+Top10 Protected ‘23 1st (sides to ‘24)?

Maybe Zaitsev+Murray(33% retained)+Greig+Sogaard+The Conditional 1st?

 

[saskriders]

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Yotes fan, here. Congrats on the DeBrincat trade. I noticed that it didn’t seem to put the Chychrun rumors to rest, which surprised me. Wondering what you all would be willing to give for Chychrun?

From a Coyotes perspective, I know they’re looking at a goalie prospect. So I’m sure they’d be asking for Sogaard. I think they’d be willing to accept some conditions on the ‘23 1st (maybe it slides to ‘24 if it’s a top 10 pick?). I also think they’d be willing to take on Zaitsev and/or Murray, if need be. I do think the big prize they’d really be set on is Ridly Greig. I don’t think they’d want Formenton. Not after the Mitch Miller debacle.

Would you guys do Zaitsev/Murray+Greig+Sogaard+Top10 Protected ‘23 1st (sides to ‘24)?

Maybe Zaitsev+Murray(33% retained)+Greig+Sogaard+The Conditional 1st?

I think we are pretty close here. One thing I might consider is due to the strength of next year's draft the first should be 2024 or maybe conditional on Ottawa making the playoffs instead of top 10 protection.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Formenton integral part of this team and will be a key cog on the 3rd line. I can see the argument of trading him for a top tier defender, but that will be difficult to stomach.

Much prefer trading Brown + and using those assets for a top 4.

 

[Tuna99]

Formenton integral part of this team and will be a key cog on the 3rd line. I can see the argument of trading him for a top tier defender, but that will be difficult to stomach.

Much prefer trading Brown + and using those assets for a top 4.

Ottawa Sun confirmed Sens are shopping
Him.

What a shame if he goes, great player.

But he was in the Uber and we know how that goes with PD

 

[Icelevel]

Yotes fan, here. Congrats on the DeBrincat trade. I noticed that it didn’t seem to put the Chychrun rumors to rest, which surprised me. Wondering what you all would be willing to give for Chychrun?

From a Coyotes perspective, I know they’re looking at a goalie prospect. So I’m sure they’d be asking for Sogaard. I think they’d be willing to accept some conditions on the ‘23 1st (maybe it slides to ‘24 if it’s a top 10 pick?). I also think they’d be willing to take on Zaitsev and/or Murray, if need be. I do think the big prize they’d really be set on is Ridly Greig. I don’t think they’d want Formenton. Not after the Mitch Miller debacle.

Would you guys do Zaitsev/Murray+Greig+Sogaard+Top10 Protected ‘23 1st (sides to ‘24)?

Maybe Zaitsev+Murray(33% retained)+Greig+Sogaard+The Conditional 1st?

No. They are very high on Sogaard. He is our goalie future. Greig should not be traded either and I don’t think they’re considering it. That’s like three 1sts you have there.

 

[Neiler]

I don't like the idea of the sens paying that price for Chychrun. I think I'd rather have those assets and find a middle pair guy than sell everything for a guy who naturally doesn't play on the right. At this point I think I'd rather plug the hole with a temp for a year or two. Someone like Mayfield as an example I guess.

 

[SENStastic]

What's the issue with Formenton? Is he asking too much? Do we know how much he's looking for and how much PD is offering?

 

[Sweatred]

You don’t pass on a top 2D because you won’t trade your unsigned 3LW who is probably replaced within the year with one of your top prospects.

You wouldn’t pass on a top 4D for that player.

 

[operasen]

Chychrun is LD. We are set there with Chabot and Sanderson as a starting point. RD is what we need. Selling that package for a LD is not good business imo. The Manson talk would not cost that package and would fill in the gap we need filled.

 

[Micklebot]

Chychrun is LD. We are set there with Chabot and Sanderson as a starting point. RD is what we need. Selling that package for a LD is not good business imo. The Manson talk would not cost that package and would fill in the gap we need filled.

There seems to be mixed messages on whether or not he can play the right side but he has all the attributes to be able to; if he can I think he's a good target, otherwise weeger or Marino look good.

 

[Frank8]

That's a big NO THANKS from me.

I was worried he'd end up being our consolation prize this offseason, so now that we went and caught the big Cat, there's really no need to go for Strome. To me it's Giroux or bust from here on out at forward. Obviously a top-4 D is the biggest priority though.

Strome might not be my first choice but he and Debrincat play very well together.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yotes fan, here. Congrats on the DeBrincat trade. I noticed that it didn’t seem to put the Chychrun rumors to rest, which surprised me. Wondering what you all would be willing to give for Chychrun?

From a Coyotes perspective, I know they’re looking at a goalie prospect. So I’m sure they’d be asking for Sogaard. I think they’d be willing to accept some conditions on the ‘23 1st (maybe it slides to ‘24 if it’s a top 10 pick?). I also think they’d be willing to take on Zaitsev and/or Murray, if need be. I do think the big prize they’d really be set on is Ridly Greig. I don’t think they’d want Formenton. Not after the Mitch Miller debacle.

Would you guys do Zaitsev/Murray+Greig+Sogaard+Top10 Protected ‘23 1st (sides to ‘24)?

Maybe Zaitsev+Murray(33% retained)+Greig+Sogaard+The Conditional 1st?

I don’t think this word will hate your offers. We love greig though.

My offer a few pages back was protected 23 first. Formenton. Lassi thomson. And Zaitsev. Would probably throw in a second as well.

I don't like the idea of the sens paying that price for Chychrun. I think I'd rather have those assets and find a middle pair guy than sell everything for a guy who naturally doesn't play on the right. At this point I think I'd rather plug the hole with a temp for a year or two. Someone like Mayfield as an example I guess.

A temp until what? I don’t think the org is sure any of our RD prospects will be able to play int the top 4. We need a legit piece who can play for the next 5-7 years

Sera all I said it will take major pieces to move Murray. Sorry but if that’s the case buy him. We need those major pieces to bring in talent not to get rid of players

 

[edguy]

Yotes fan, here. Congrats on the DeBrincat trade. I noticed that it didn’t seem to put the Chychrun rumors to rest, which surprised me. Wondering what you all would be willing to give for Chychrun?

From a Coyotes perspective, I know they’re looking at a goalie prospect. So I’m sure they’d be asking for Sogaard. I think they’d be willing to accept some conditions on the ‘23 1st (maybe it slides to ‘24 if it’s a top 10 pick?). I also think they’d be willing to take on Zaitsev and/or Murray, if need be. I do think the big prize they’d really be set on is Ridly Greig. I don’t think they’d want Formenton. Not after the Mitch Miller debacle.

Would you guys do Zaitsev/Murray+Greig+Sogaard+Top10 Protected ‘23 1st (sides to ‘24)?

Maybe Zaitsev+Murray(33% retained)+Greig+Sogaard+The Conditional 1st?

Make that first offer lotto protected instead of top 10 protected and I'd do it.
Greig is great but if we can get Chychrun here with term we are legitimately no longer playoff hopefuls, we are a legitimate threat to contend.

 

[bert]

Ottawa Sun confirmed Sens are shopping
Him.

What a shame if he goes, great player.

But he was in the Uber and we know how that goes with PD

If he has no value here why would he somewhere else. Trading him right now because of that makes no logical sense.

 

[bert]

Strome might not be my first choice but he and Debrincat play very well together.

Fair enough, so he would be bumping Stutzle, Norris or Pinto out of a spot.... He also doesn't play with pace something that DJ seems to value. I don't see the fit. Perron, Marchment, Burakovsky, Nichushkin, Copp, Niederreiter all seem to be better players that fill a hole on the wing.

 

[GCK]

I think I’d prioritize Marino over Chykrun.

5M over 5 years 4.4AAV.
Full time RD.
Cost of acquiring should be lower.

Weeger would be my first choice from a straight hockey perspective but I don’t know why he’d be available and he will want long term on his next deal which will start at 29 years old.

 

[Bevans]

If he has no value here why would he somewhere else. Trading him right now because of that makes no logical sense.

If they were to trade him right now the return would be so poor that it would be perceived as senators jumping ship before news comes out, and the buying team callously trying to get a discount on damaged goods, Ala stephens and mailloux.

Low price for buyer you look exploitative. High price you run the risk of looking like an idiot, if there is fire with the smoke.

No win. No trade.

Better to keep the spotlight off formenton than to shine everyone's attention on him.

 

[edguy]

If he has no value here why would he somewhere else. Trading him right now because of that makes no logical sense.

Weird logic? Hamonic had no value in VAN and he still brought back an asset. There are hundreds of examples out there.
Different teams evaluate players differently, while we may only see him as a career third liner another team could absolutely see him as a top 6 guy.

 

[Daffy]

Seravalli says Ottawa is trying to move Murray as fast and efficiently as possible. That it will cost us "major sweeteners." If we can't move him we buy him out and save 5 million in real cash.

 

[GCK]

Seravalli says Ottawa is trying to move Murray as fast and efficiently as possible. That it will cost us "major sweeteners." If we can't move him we buy him out and save 5 million in real cash.

Murray may be moveable on the 14th. I’m hopeful Keumper signs in either Washington or Buffalo leaving Edmonton and Toronto bidding for Campbell. Murray might be the best option left.

 

[Tuna99]

If he has no value here why would he somewhere else. Trading him right now because of that makes no logical sense.

They should keep him, but this is PierreDorion after all.