Guess you don't remember Havlat in the playoffs for us vs Tampa. Duchene has been excellent for us. And a good pro. If he wants to stay I'd love to have him back.
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Guess you don't remember Havlat in the playoffs for us vs Tampa. Duchene has been excellent for us. And a good pro. If he wants to stay I'd love to have him back.
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Great, now I read this and it has made me sad that Havlat got injured early in that season when he was on fire.
With regards to Tuna's point though, I think you need many different things to win. You need the Alfie type - ala Stone, the best "team" forward that elevates the play of everyone - and you need the Havlat type - a player that can single-handedly make a difference in tight games. I see Duchene as somewhere in the middle.
Trade Ryan to Calgary with 1.25 retained for Brouwer and Stone
Trade Pittsburgh’s first and Burrows to Arizona for Hjalmarsson
Trade Smith and Ceci
Sign Valteri Filpulla for one year at 3 million
Sign Brad Richardson for one year at 1 million
Extend Stone, Duchene, Karlsson and Hjalmarsson
Hope to get a LW for Ceci who can play on the 2nd/3rd line
Hoffman Duchene Stone
XXX Filpulla Gaborik
Dzingel Pageau White
Pyatt Richardson Brouwer
McCormick
Hjalmarsson Karlsson
Chabot Stone
Boro Wideman
Harpur
Andy
Condon
Trade Pittsburgh’s first and Burrows to Arizona for Hjalmarsson
Trade Smith and Ceci
Sign Valteri Filpulla for one year at 3 million
Sign Brad Richardson for one year at 1 million
Extend Stone, Duchene, Karlsson and Hjalmarsson
Hope to get a LW for Ceci who can play on the 2nd/3rd line
Hoffman Duchene Stone
XXX Filpulla Gaborik
Dzingel Pageau White
Pyatt Richardson Brouwer
McCormick
Hjalmarsson Karlsson
Chabot Stone
Boro Wideman
Harpur
Andy
Condon
tony d
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That would be a dream off-season I say to the previous poster, I think we will buy out Gaborik this summer though.
My plan includes buying him our next off season. Risky though if he gets hurt and you have to put him on LTIR.
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If we get better goaltending we could be ok. I don’t expect to make the playoffs with that roster, but we shouldn’t be awful. If Colorado gets our pick next year and it’s in the 10-15 range, I’m ok with that. My plan is to be competitive 2-3 years from now. We give our young’s like Brown, Chlapik, Batherson, Formenton time to develop in the meantime. If we’re out of it by the deadline we can move guys like Filppula, Richardson, Pyatt to get some picks.
We build around Karlsson, Stone, Duchene and Hoffman. That’s not a bad core.
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I'm confident Anderson can bounce back, because he has played so hot in his good games. It shows me he is still a goalie capable of a high level of play, and what we need is to sort out why he is so bad in his bad games. Would I erase his extension if I could? Sure. That'd be the safer road. But he's untradable at this point. With that said, I don't think it's over for him. I think he can have another good year.
Anderson has been a really strange goalie in the new year. Looking at his save percentage doesn't really tell the full story, because he's actually had more good games than bad.
He's played 22 games. In 14 of those games, his "good" performances, he's had what works out to almost a .930 save percentage (.9298 to be exact). In Anderson's 14 "good" games, his four lowest save percentages have been .909, .912, .917, and .917. In the other 10 of those games, his save percentage hasn't dipped below .920.
The problem is that when Anderson has bad games, he is awful. In his 8 games where he posted below a .900 save percentage, he's had an roughly an .841 save percentage.
So it's clear that so far in the new year, when Anderson is bad, he's awful, when he's good he is mostly fantastic. I don't know how much every other goalie varies in performance and how normal it is to have a goalie who for 6/10 games players like an absolute Vezina tier stud, and the other roughly 4/10 plays like an ECHL chump.
The main reason this gives me hope that Anderson isn't done, is that it shows he is still capable of playing at a high level. No goalie who is done would be capable of having as many excellent games as Anderson has had in 2018. Clearly, whatever is happening this season with Anderson is a consistency issue, and not an ability issue.
Anderson has been a really strange goalie in the new year. Looking at his save percentage doesn't really tell the full story, because he's actually had more good games than bad.
He's played 22 games. In 14 of those games, his "good" performances, he's had what works out to almost a .930 save percentage (.9298 to be exact). In Anderson's 14 "good" games, his four lowest save percentages have been .909, .912, .917, and .917. In the other 10 of those games, his save percentage hasn't dipped below .920.
The problem is that when Anderson has bad games, he is awful. In his 8 games where he posted below a .900 save percentage, he's had an roughly an .841 save percentage.
So it's clear that so far in the new year, when Anderson is bad, he's awful, when he's good he is mostly fantastic. I don't know how much every other goalie varies in performance and how normal it is to have a goalie who for 6/10 games players like an absolute Vezina tier stud, and the other roughly 4/10 plays like an ECHL chump.
The main reason this gives me hope that Anderson isn't done, is that it shows he is still capable of playing at a high level. No goalie who is done would be capable of having as many excellent games as Anderson has had in 2018. Clearly, whatever is happening this season with Anderson is a consistency issue, and not an ability issue.
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I see what you're saying. Avs fans did say Duchene tends to disappear a lot, and puts too much pressure on himself. Seeing him go red hot as soon as we're (realistically) out of the playoff race certainly lends credibility to that.
I would really rather wait until next January (or later) before offering him a new contract. I need to see how he plays over an extended period when the games matter. Duchene 's next contract will be a big investment for any team...we need to be sure we know what we have in him.
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Disgaree.
We gave up a lot of assets for him.
Retain him almost no matter what. I mean I can't imagine he'll be asking for more than 7 per.
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Sounds like a Bobby Ryan situation.
Stylizer1
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Gaborik + a 4th
drum roll
Spezza 3 m retained
Spezza for 1 season @ 4.5 million could a be a good stop gap until we can find a long term solution for our 2nd line center position. Could also be dealt at the deadline to a contender like Brassard. Gaborik would still be a buyout option for Dallas
drum roll
Spezza 3 m retained
Spezza for 1 season @ 4.5 million could a be a good stop gap until we can find a long term solution for our 2nd line center position. Could also be dealt at the deadline to a contender like Brassard. Gaborik would still be a buyout option for Dallas
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Shoot me in the face before we get Spezza back.
Will never happen lmao
Will never happen lmao
Why in the world would Dallas do that? For a 4rth round pick lol
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Because I wanna see a Spezza behind the back to a Hoffman behind the back to EK letting it go on the powerplay
I saw talk of Spezza and knew it was Stylizer1 before even scrolling up
Stylizer1
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and hitting Ryan in the finger.
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This would pretty much be the complete antithesis to the approach a retooling team should take.
Guys like EK and Stone have proven they can compete on a regular level, even Hoffman to a certain extent, but we can't keep handing out contracts based on past or short-term productivity. Otherwise we'll get stuck in the same mediocrity loop we've been in for ages now.
The fact that Dorion gave up too many assets for him shouldn't handcuff the team into making further mistakes, and I agree we should give Duchene until next trade deadline to prove he can perform for more than a month at a time.
You know, it should be said more often, but you’re an excellent poster.
this has been the story of our season.
22 games. 44 possible points.
without looking it up, I'm guessing in the 14 good games we got 22 points roughly. then in the 8 games we may have got a point or two and that doesn't add up to enough.
that 900 save percentage means for every 920 game you have an 880 game and the 880 game doesn't cut it.
if he had 2 bad games, even 3, out of 22 starts that would be 5 more games where the goaltending is good enough to win and that's another 6 or more points. Add it up and it's 30 points out of a possible 44 and that clearly gets you in.
Throw Condon into the mix with his 900 save percentage and that's our season.
Goalies are going to have games where they are not good enough for you to get points. But when we're talking 8 out of 22 games, it's happening more frequently that what we need to be in the playoff mix.
some of the save percentage has been impacted by our tire fire defence but some of the flip side is that goaltending is impacting momentum and causing us to chase games where we shouldn' have to.
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