Sterling Archer
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Giving up a defenseman for another defenseman is not adding depth
Less so when he's older and paid more but produces the same or less.
Giving up a defenseman for another defenseman is not adding depth
That's true. I just have a feeling at the end of the day he'll go at the deadline because avs would like picks for this years draft. Could be totally off though. Only time will tell.
They can trade him at the draft - when they will have a lot more suitors because the salary cap won't be an issue - and still have picks for this years draft.
But this years draft isn't particularly good so the entire conceit that they would make the deal sooner rather than later to have picks in this years draft doesn't really make a lot of sense anyway.
How about a deal with Buffalo?
To Buffalo: Nathan Beaulieu and a 2nd round pick
To Montreal: Dmitry Kulikov and Marcus Foligno
Sabres get a former 1st rounder with talent and a pick, while the Habs get a Russian defenseman that's been injured and is a UFA to be. Adds depth for a playoff run, while Foligno gives the Habs a guy with size that can wear down opposing defensemen and make life miserable for other teams.
Pacioretty - Danault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Foligno - Plekanec - Shaw
Byron - Mitchell - Flynn
Emelin - Weber
Markov - Petry
Kulikov - Nesterov/Pateryn
How about a deal with Buffalo?
To Buffalo: Nathan Beaulieu and a 2nd round pick
To Montreal: Dmitry Kulikov and Marcus Foligno
Sabres get a former 1st rounder with talent and a pick, while the Habs get a Russian defenseman that's been injured and is a UFA to be. Adds depth for a playoff run, while Foligno gives the Habs a guy with size that can wear down opposing defensemen and make life miserable for other teams.
Pacioretty - Danault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Foligno - Plekanec - Shaw
Byron - Mitchell - Flynn
Emelin - Weber
Markov - Petry
Kulikov - Nesterov/Pateryn
I like the Kulikov idea. He's similar to Beaulieu, but older and more developped. I'd feel safer with him going into the playoffs. And then there's the Russian factor. We'd be icing 4 Russians on defense!
Of all the names that have been floating around, Duchene is still the guy I'd prefer. Speed, skill and versatility. Surrounded by proper leadership, in a true hockey city, on a team with a legit shot at the cup, I think this guy could excel and make a real difference.
Meh, I can't say I find Kulikov to be much of an improvement over Beaulieu. If anything, Nate is faster and he's got more of a mean streak ( It comes and goes mind you) . Kulikov hasn't shown more of an offensive game at the pro level than Beaulieu has either.
Kulikov is a UFA to be. Beaulieu isn't.
No thank you
This team needs a 2C.
This team needs more skill at forward.
This team needs a skilled 2C.
Forgive me if this has already been brought up, but Pierre Houde was on the radio this morning and the subject was, being in Colorado, obviously about the trade rumours surrounding the team. Houde mentioned that from what he hears, not only would Sakic like to trade both Landeskog and Duchene, but that he'd prefer it be done in the same trade.
And if people think Beaulieu has poor IQ, then I have no idea what you'll think of Kulikov. He's all the brain-farts with none of the generating offense or transition.
No way that'd be doable unless both Galchenyuk and Sergachev were involved, or Galchenyuk and Gallagher.
Which would kind of defeat the purpose of going for one or the other.
Don't see why Sakic would want to trade both at the same time. It's already hard as it is to move salary around, why make it even harder by moving two big contracts simultaneously? Only reason why I think he'd want to move both together is to go after a really big fish on defense. A guy like OEL, maybe.
No way that'd be doable unless both Galchenyuk and Sergachev were involved, or Galchenyuk and Gallagher.
Which would kind of defeat the purpose of going for one or the other.
Don't see why Sakic would want to trade both at the same time. It's already hard as it is to move salary around, why make it even harder by moving two big contracts simultaneously? Only reason why I think he'd want to move both together is to go after a really big fish on defense. A guy like OEL, maybe.
OEL makes sense for them, yes. With Mack, Rantanen and Jost they can afford it. Makes them a much better team.
Forgive me if this has already been brought up, but Pierre Houde was on the radio this morning and the subject was, being in Colorado, obviously about the trade rumours surrounding the team. Houde mentioned that from what he hears, not only would Sakic like to trade both Landeskog and Duchene, but that he'd prefer it be done in the same trade.