Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XV

[Jesus comma Brodin]

“It does no good to pout and get pissed off at each other,†said Suter. “You’ve got to come together and dig out of this. Now’s when you need leadership more than ever. It’s easy to be a coach and a leader when things are going good.â€

Then be a leader and don't worry about your effing Norris.

 

[nickschultzfan]

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2015/11/30/9819788/ryan-suter-jonas-brodin-minnesota-wild-mike-yeo

Damn, Suter had some major digs against Yeo.

All that "needing leadership" bit - because he was not talking about himself or his buddy Parise.

 

[Billy Mays Here*]

Brodin for Hamonic making more and more sense now.

 

[kfan22]

Brodin for Hamonic making more and more sense now.

Umm no, only way you trade Brodin is for a # 1 Center IMO

 

[Billy Mays Here*]

Umm no, only way you trade Brodin is for a # 1 Center IMO

You don't get a #1 C for Brodin alone, and you certainly don't get one with our current cap situation. The Hamonic deal makes more sense as it's two players on somewhat similar contracts, both are young, and the Isles need a d-man going back.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Brodin for Hamonic making more and more sense now.

No, it doesn't...If Dumba could play, this wouldn't be a problem.

 

[kfan22]

You don't get a #1 C for Brodin alone, and you certainly don't get one with our current cap situation. The Hamonic deal makes more sense as it's two players on somewhat similar contracts, both are young, and the Isles need a d-man going back.

Maybe true but if Brodin isnt in that package for a # 1 center then we have to part with more assets and right now we cant afford to give up many more picks or prospects

 

[nickschultzfan]

Brodin for Hamonic making more and more sense now.

We should be shipping Dumba+ for Hamonic.

Agreed that Brodin should be used for a center if he is being shipped out.

 

[saywut]

Only part of Suter's comments I disagree with is him saying its not fair to play Brodin on his "off-side" when its quite clear that Brodin is more comfortable and better player on his "off-side" than his natural side.

3rd pair is going to be garbage if they put the 4 good ones as the top-4 so I'd expect heavy minutes for all 4 of them.

 

[Wild11MN]

I think I agree with the few that have said we should be looking to trade Dumba. Starting to get the feeling that we might actually see a trade instead of just the usual speculation.

And I don't really have a problem with Suter saying that. The drama could open up a little more if we lose the next few games.

Yeah, guess which RW isn't scoring

It's more than just the goals that's the issue. Pommer has 1 goal and still has more than 40% of points by RWs this year.

 

[Nordic*]

What would you give up for Duchene?

 

[nickschultzfan]

God, if we could get some cap space, we could probably get Johansen for something like Dumba, Ek, and Olofsson.

Would hate to lose Ek though.

 

[kfan22]

God, if we could get some cap space, we could probably get Johansen for something like Dumba, Ek, and Olofsson.

Would hate to lose Ek though.

No way would Columbus do that though

 

[JoCro11]

Ship Pominville to Montreal for picks (and cap space). Use some of the high Montreal picks to make a Brodin-Belpedio-Haula+ offer for Johansen, and a Dumba+ offer for Hamonic. Columbus gets their defensive future and an excellent pk center, Islanders get a right handed defenseman and picks, Wild finally contend and can afford Spurgeon. Thoughts?

 

[AKL]

Ship Pominville to Montreal for picks (and cap space). Use some of the high Montreal picks to make a Brodin-Belpedio-Haula+ offer for Johansen, and a Dumba+ offer for Hamonic. Columbus gets their defensive future and an excellent pk center, Islanders get a right handed defenseman and picks, Wild finally contend and can afford Spurgeon. Thoughts?

Pipe dreams.

 

[57special]

God, if we could get some cap space, we could probably get Johansen for something like Dumba, Ek, and Olofsson.

Would hate to lose Ek though.

not a chance. It starts with Brodin, then add one of our young guns, then add a prospect or pick.

Until our D settles down I'm not crazy about moving any of our top 4. I don't know when Hamonic became this great player. Last year NYI were saying that Leddy and Boychuk were their #1's. I'll take the locked up 22 yo who can skate like the wind, thanks.

I wish we had Leopold around to steady the young guys like Dumba and Folin.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Only way we can get rid of Pomms is if we take back cap. Emelin is too much cap but Gilbert would be perfect. $2.8M cap hit with a deal that is done after this year. Habs fans agreed to this a few weeks ago and I am starting to think it isn't an awful idea. Not like we need Gilbert necessarily but he could be Dumba's new Leopold

 

[57special]

Ship Pominville to Montreal for picks (and cap space). Use some of the high Montreal picks to make a Brodin-Belpedio-Haula+ offer for Johansen, and a Dumba+ offer for Hamonic. Columbus gets their defensive future and an excellent pk center, Islanders get a right handed defenseman and picks, Wild finally contend and can afford Spurgeon. Thoughts?

MTL has no cap space to take on Poms. The other trades are unrealistic.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

If we take back $3M they will. ($2.8 really)

 

[57special]

JB you posting demon!

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

JB you posting demon!

I do what I can, for the fans.

So done deal then? Pominville for Gilbert, 2016 2nd and 2017th 3/4?

 

[BigT2002]

If we take back $3M they will. ($2.8 really)

Nobody is touching that contract regardless. At the rate he's on, he'll be lucky to crack 10 goals and 20 assists. That is roughly $93k by your amount an opposing team takes on for each point he scores this season. Not to mention he clearly won't get the ice time and PP time he gets here with an opposing team. So that number could be significantly higher. Bad investment for any team that isn't trying to put butts in seats by name notoriety alone.

 

[Wild11MN]

Nobody is touching that contract regardless. At the rate he's on, he'll be lucky to crack 10 goals and 20 assists. That is roughly $93k by your amount an opposing team takes on for each point he scores this season. Not to mention he clearly won't get the ice time and PP time he gets here with an opposing team. So that number could be significantly higher. Bad investment for any team that isn't trying to put butts in seats by name notoriety alone.

Huh, I guess 10 assists in 22 games means he'd need to be awfully lucky to get 10 more in the final 60.

 

[57special]

Poms is at a .5PPG pace. Not great, but if he scores a couple he will be a viable commodity on the trade market. Check out guys Like Voracek, Crosby, and Eberle.... they are having slow starts also, and they have heavier, and in some cases, worryingly heavier, cap hits.

I'm not a big Poms fan, but there is no denying he has had a legit NHL career.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Nobody is touching that contract regardless. At the rate he's on, he'll be lucky to crack 10 goals and 20 assists. That is roughly $93k by your amount an opposing team takes on for each point he scores this season. Not to mention he clearly won't get the ice time and PP time he gets here with an opposing team. So that number could be significantly higher. Bad investment for any team that isn't trying to put butts in seats by name notoriety alone.

In a main board thread a number of Habs fans and myself (3X Armchair GM of the Year) agreed to:

MTL receives:

Pominville

MN receives:

Gilbert
2016 2nd (they have ours and I want that $*** back)
2017 3rd

Their cap situation isn't nearly as bad as ours and their RW depth is awful, especially with Gallagher's injury. MTL would be interested, most fans seem to be.