If the playoffs should happen it also builds on the experience of the Hershey grads who won the Calder Cup last year. It creates a winner environment and Carberry will implement never quit attitude.
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If the playoffs should happen it also builds on the experience of the Hershey grads who won the Calder Cup last year. It creates a winner environment and Carberry will implement never quit attitude.
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I have been pretty critical of GMBM. But I am OK with this deadline. It still all hinges on his ability to hit on draft picks.
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Here's my (overly detailed) hypothesis of how the Kuzy trade went down, based on timing and some stuff that was said during the process:
* Kuzy has had enough and demands a trade
* Washington is like "some folks might be interested but they want to make sure you're clean"
* To prove this, Kuzy agrees to join the player assistance program, comes back after a month or whatever it was
* Orlov sells Carolina coaching staff
* Washington doesn't want to eat 50% of his salary and so they waive Kuzy to see if they can get rid of him that way, no takers
* Lots of moving parts at the deadline, Carolina is in on various deals, some materialize and others don't .... as the deadline looms, they're like "ah lets give it a shot" ... GMBM somehow convinces them to give up a 3rd in order to eat half of his salary.
I could be totally off! But if I had to guess, at least part of this is true.
* Kuzy has had enough and demands a trade
* Washington is like "some folks might be interested but they want to make sure you're clean"
* To prove this, Kuzy agrees to join the player assistance program, comes back after a month or whatever it was
* Orlov sells Carolina coaching staff
* Washington doesn't want to eat 50% of his salary and so they waive Kuzy to see if they can get rid of him that way, no takers
* Lots of moving parts at the deadline, Carolina is in on various deals, some materialize and others don't .... as the deadline looms, they're like "ah lets give it a shot" ... GMBM somehow convinces them to give up a 3rd in order to eat half of his salary.
I could be totally off! But if I had to guess, at least part of this is true.
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If they do make a run, one would have to imagine Pacioretty will be carrying his weight with Mantha gone and Oshie out. Worth hanging on to for me plus he seems like a great professional veteran presence to be around the kids.
We’re going to be conservative sellers next season too and that’s fine. After next year we can really take a shot at getting back to the playoffs with the cap space and our young guys becoming more experienced.
We’re going to be conservative sellers next season too and that’s fine. After next year we can really take a shot at getting back to the playoffs with the cap space and our young guys becoming more experienced.
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utterly ridiculous from pacioretty. a team gives him a shot after two major injuries and he repays them by blocking any trade offer. what a joke man.
“finish what he started” like what finishing 7th in the metro and playing like ass? wow. some player.
“finish what he started” like what finishing 7th in the metro and playing like ass? wow. some player.
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"I didn't see you doing anything"
"Shitting the bed isn't better than not shitting the bed".
I appreciate the way he avoids doing demonstrative “we did something” moves and sticks to his process
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That conditional 4th rounder isn’t going to matter. This seems like a wild overreaction. Maybe take the human element into the equation? The man didn’t want to either uproot his family or leave his family for an extended period of time.
Oh dear, you are a sour one, aren’t you.
So you think a person should uproot their entire lives (and family), just….because Jay Beagles fan club wants him to?
Do you have young kids? Have you had to leave them for work?
Max has FIVE kids, all under the age of 13. Yet you blame him for not wanting to ditch them for 3mo+?
Ok, man
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I mean I'm totally fine on this. Caps have been good on the past with some older players giving them some deference.
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Another thing that no one will probably think about is this is creating a positive image of the caps organization too. Shows possible future free agents that the capitals organization cares about the players they bring in
hb12xchamps
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That Hertl to Vegas deal is horrendous for SJ. Wtf is Grier smoking? Retained for 6? years and sent out 2 3rd rounders
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Grier also got fleeced by the Penguins in theKarlsson deal.
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Just got home from work and catching up on the rest of the day and GOOD f***ING LORD VEGAS and GOOD f***ING LORD GRIER
This is what happens when tanking is the only thing that matters. Your high paid past their prime guys aren't as valuable as you believe... I'm speaking on all the guys wanting to trade Carlson, Oshie, etc.
San Jose is gonna be stuck in a long ass rebuild.
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Ridiculous take. He negotiated a NMC specifically for that reason. He is well within his contractual rights to bar trades he doesn’t want.
Besides, I’m not sure teams would’ve paid us a fortune for a guy who scored 3 goals in 26 games.
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11 top 3 round picks in the next two drafts now. Plenty of trade ammo but we'll see what sort of game becomes available. If nothing pans out in the way of younger talent via trade that should be a head start on amassing serious organizational pipeline depth if they play their cards right. I've always believed they'd suck post-Ovi but it may be avoidable if they're very strategic the next couple years. Balancing the draft/UFA/trades...and some luck..will be needed to get boosted back into contention.
C/D remains the biggest question long-term and if they do end up using most of those picks they'd probably be wise to load up at those positions and see what sticks.
C/D remains the biggest question long-term and if they do end up using most of those picks they'd probably be wise to load up at those positions and see what sticks.
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I'll never complain about a player invoking their contractual rights. Don't like it? Don't sign them to that contract.
Also, Patches really has 5 kids? His poor wife!
Also, Patches really has 5 kids? His poor wife!
Alexander the Gr8
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So, separate him from his family of 5 for the next 2-3 months just for a 4th round pick, or keep him here because we need healthy roster players anyway?
hb12xchamps
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Family over everything. Very clear you don’t have children.
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