Toronto and hype trains - why do we never learn?

[ruaware41]

Things Leafs fans have defended:

- Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
- Marner has Gretzky like vision
- Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
- Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
- Rielly is an elite 1d
- Matthews is better than McDavid
- Matthews is the best player in the league


We are always looking to find some hype train to ride and blow it way out of proportion. Now people are doing the same thing with Rod because he was a phenomenal respected hockey player and now we must ride his coattails based on the hype. Just like ppl did with Babcock because an overtime victory with by far the most stacked roster by leaps and bounds in the Olympic finals is really a great reflection of good coaching and execution and puts him over every other NHL coach who never got such an opportunity.

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[HamiltonNHL]

It’s The Media.

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• - Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
• - Marner has Gretzky like vision
• - Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
• - Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
• - Rielly is an elite 1d
• - Matthews is better than McDavid
• - Matthews is the best player in the league

I don't believe any of those.
Never did for one second.

 

[Racer88]

It’s The Media.

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• - Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
• - Marner has Gretzky like vision
• - Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
• - Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
• - Rielly is an elite 1d
• - Matthews is better than McDavid
• - Matthews is the best player in the league

I don't believe any of those.
Never did for one second.

It’s because we are so desperate fr any meaningful suspension

 

[All Mod Cons]

Some don't though.

You can add Robertson, Liljegren, Bracco, Timashov, Hirvonen, Niemela and possibly Knies and Woll depending, to the list as well.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

It’s The Media.

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• - Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
• - Marner has Gretzky like vision
• - Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
• - Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
• - Rielly is an elite 1d
• - Matthews is better than McDavid
• - Matthews is the best player in the league

I don't believe any of those.
Never did for one second.

Seconded.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Babcock best coach in sports history? Hahahahahaha

 

[Buds17]

A huge fanbase in which different people hold different opinions. There might not be too many individuals who believe(d) all of those things to be true.

 

[TMLegend]

Part of it is the media, part of is I think the majority of Leafs fans don't watch other teams around the NHL so they just take whatever the media says as truth, assuming it's positive.

Toronto isn't a hockey town, it's a Leafs town.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Things Leafs fans have defended:

- Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
- Marner has Gretzky like vision
- Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
- Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
- Rielly is an elite 1d
- Matthews is better than McDavid
- Matthews is the best player in the league


We are always looking to find some hype train to ride and blow it way out of proportion. Now people are doing the same thing with Rod because he was a phenomenal respected hockey player and now we must ride his coattails based on the hype. Just like ppl did with Babcock because an overtime victory with by far the most stacked roster by leaps and bounds in the Olympic finals is really a great reflection of good coaching and execution and puts him over every other NHL coach who never got such an opportunity.

Different people have different opinions. Not every fan shared those opinions. Some shared some not others. Each fan is different.
There are those who want Rod, and those that don't.

 

[Sypher04]

Things Leafs fans have defended:

- Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
- Marner has Gretzky like vision
- Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
- Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
- Rielly is an elite 1d
- Matthews is better than McDavid
- Matthews is the best player in the league


We are always looking to find some hype train to ride and blow it way out of proportion. Now people are doing the same thing with Rod because he was a phenomenal respected hockey player and now we must ride his coattails based on the hype. Just like ppl did with Babcock because an overtime victory with by far the most stacked roster by leaps and bounds in the Olympic finals is really a great reflection of good coaching and execution and puts him over every other NHL coach who never got such an opportunity.

What you are describing is literally just fandom. the claims differ but it happens in every sports, every city.

 

[Nineteen67]

It’s The Media.

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• - Babcock is the best coach in NHL and sports history
• - Marner has Gretzky like vision
• - Kerfoot is a better hockey player than Kadri
• - Kadri is a better hockey player than prime Tavares
• - Rielly is an elite 1d
• - Matthews is better than McDavid
• - Matthews is the best player in the league

I don't believe any of those.
Never did for one second.

This….The Toronto media hypes everything.

 

[hamzarocks]

Toronto has the 2nd worst history for big 6 teams after the Rangers

We have had almost 60 year cup drought

I wonder is anyone on these boarda old enough to remember the 1967 cup? I was 30+ years from being born lool

In those near 60 years we have had to overrate and overhype a lot of things to stay excited and relevant

It has been hard to see other newer teams be more succsessful, get better players, coaches, GMs, scouts etc then us

Leafs nation fell victim to this again and anoited the core guys as the best or top 3 core in the league back in 2017 when they joined the org and we made playoffs suprisingly

It has been hard for most to adjust expectations after seeing how past 8 years have gone. Too many people still defend the core

The only guy who is defendable is Matthews and even he does get overrated but he has been a top 5 player now 3 of last 4 years at worst which is something this organization basically never has had

 

[Metroid]

Toronto has the 2nd worst history for big 6 teams after the Rangers

We have had almost 60 year cup drought

I wonder is anyone on these boarda old enough to remember the 1967 cup? I was 30+ years from being born lool

In those near 60 years we have had to overrate and overhype a lot of things to stay excited and relevant

It has been hard to see other newer teams be more succsessful, get better players, coaches, GMs, scouts etc then us

Leafs nation fell victim to this again and anoited the core guys as the best or top 3 core in the league back in 2017 when they joined the org and we made playoffs suprisingly

It has been hard for most to adjust expectations after seeing how past 8 years have gone. Too many people still defend the core

The only guy who is defendable is Matthews and even he does get overrated but he has been a top 5 player now 3 of last 4 years at worst which is something this organization basically never has had

The Rangers have won the Stanley Cup only once since 1940, in 1994; they lost to the Los Angeles Kings in the final in 2014.

If the goal is to win cups. Leafs have a better history than the rags.

 

[hamzarocks]

The Rangers have won the Stanley Cup only once since 1940, in 1994; they lost to the Los Angeles Kings in the final in 2014.

If the goal is to win cups. Leafs have a better history than the rags.

That is what I said

We have the 2nd worst history of the big 6 after the Rangers who have the worst

My bad if it was worded weirdly

If the rangers win the cup this year they pass us though

They have been super competitive mostly since 2005 lockout. A cup now would put them ahead of us