Pre-Game Talk: TOR @ CLB 7pm HNIC (SN, CBC)

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Rare Jewel

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You just listed 3 good defensive players (Holl, Kerfoot, Engvall) and a decent one (Bunting) that were replaced by 4 bad defensive players and we are wondering why defensively we look worse?

4 players is over 20% of the nightly roster.
Two, I would disagree that Kerfoot is particularly good defensively; he couldn't hack it at C for that reason.

However, they're not beyond replacement, and I don't see why Holl needs to be paid in excess of 3.4 m.

You forgot Kerfoot. :)
No, I didn't. :cool:
 

notbias

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Two, I would disagree that Kerfoot is particularly good defensively; he couldn't hack it at C for that reason.

However, they're not beyond replacement, and I don't see why Holl needs to be paid in excess of 3.4 m.

Not saying they were the wrong moves, just definitely downgrading defensively.

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Not sure Robertson and Timmins have enough data to conclude anything from their card... But the other signings (Reaves and Klingberg) are terrible defensively too.

I didn't think the drop would be this big, but defnitely thought there would be a drop, I just thought secondary scoring would go up a lot more than it has.
 
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rumman

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They really had no choice to extend him. Woll still a question mark at the time, Murray a disaster, he was left without much. I was fine with one year, nobody thought he'd be league worst. I figured Woll would get the job though.
I was referencing Keefe, your the second person to suggest I was referring to Samsonov, I guess I wasn’t making sense with that post……..
 

Rare Jewel

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Not saying they were the wrong moves, just definitely downgrading defensively.

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Not sure Robertson and Timmins have enough data to conclude anything from their card... But the other signings (Reaves and Klingberg) are terrible defensively too.

I didn't think the drop would be this big, but defnitely thought there would be a drop, I just thought secondary scoring would go up a lot more than it has.
If you think I'm some sort of Treliving supporter, then I've led you a stray. I probably don't like his signing anymore than you do.


I hold him to the same account that I held the previous bespeckled maven to.
 
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There isn't a chance in hell the Leafs lose this game tonight. As per the script they'll follow up an abysmal performance against Buffalo with a great one tonight.
 

DarkKnight

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How they respond is more important than last game, it happens. If they don't come out "embarrassed" and with something to prove, then you get concerned.
 
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There isn't a chance in hell the Leafs lose this game tonight. As per the script they'll follow up an abysmal performance against Buffalo with a great one tonight.
I would not put it past them to get blown out again. I am still in disbelief from the Buffalo game. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that.
 
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