Prospect Info: Top Prospects Poll 2021

[tarheelhockey]

1. Jarvis
2. Bokk
3. Rees
4. Drury
5. Keane
6. Suzuki
7. Vasili
8. Tieksola
9. Gunler
10. Morrow
11. Mattheos
12. Nikishin
13. Heimosalmi
14. Koivunen
15. Honka

1. Kochetkov
2. Makiniemi
3. Warm
4. LaFontaine

 

[tarheelhockey]

Just realized I left Ponomaryov off my list accidentally. Whoops.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I better think about this and make a list in the next few days... when’s the deadline?

 

[A Star is Burns]

Here's what I submitted. I don't typically submit one, but there were so many prospects to rank that I felt compelled. I have them broken down into tiers and wrote some notes about my rankings, but that's on a different machine. I'll try to include that later.

1. Seth Jarvis - RW - 1st 2020, 13 OA
2. Jack Drury - C - 2nd 2019, 42 OA
3. Ryan Suzuki - C - 1st 2019, 28 OA
4. Noel Gunler - W - 2nd 2020, 41 OA
5. Scott Morrow - RHD - 2nd 2021, 40 OA
6. Dominik Bokk - RW - 1st 2018, 25 OA (STL) - Acquired in Faulk trade
7. Jamieson Rees - W - 2nd 2019, 44 OA
8. Vasili Ponomarev - C - 2nd 2020, 53 OA
9. Ville Koivunen - RW - 2nd 2021, 51 OA
10. Aleksi Heimosalmi - RHD - 2nd 2021, 44 OA
11. Joey Keane - RHD - 3rd 2018, 88 OA (NYR) - Acquired in Gauthier trade
12. Tuukka Tieksola - LW - 4th 2019, 121 OA
13. Aidan Hreschuk - LHD - 3rd 2021, 94 OA
14. Jesper Sellgren - LHD - 6th 2018, 166 OA
15. Anttoni Honka - RHD - 3rd 2019, 83 OA
16. David Cotton - C - 6th 2015, 169 OA
17. Jackson Blake - RW - 4th 2021, 109 OA
18. Alexander Nikishin - LHD - 3rd 2020, 69 OA
19. Ronan Seeley - LHD - 7th 2020, 208 OA
20. Patrik Puistola - LW - 3rd 2019, 73 OA
21. Blake Murray - C - 6th 2019, 183 OA
22. Dominick Fensore - LHD - 3rd 2019, 90 OA
23. Justin Robidas - C - 5th 2021, 147 OA
24. Bobby Orr - RW - 5th 2021, 136 OA
25. Zion Nybeck - RW - 4th 2020, 115 OA
26. Stelio Mattheos - C - 3rd 2017, 73 OA
27. Lenni Killinen - LW - 4th 2018, 104 OA
28. Cade Webber - LHD - 4th 2019, 99 OA
29. Bryce Montgomery - RHD - 6th 2021, 170 OA
30. Alexander Pashin - C/W - 7th 2020, 199 OA
31. Nikita Guslitsov - C - 7th 2021, 209 OA
32. Lucas Mercuri - C - 6th 2020, 159 OA
33. Joel Nystrom - RHD - 7th 2021, 219 OA
34. Kevin Wall - C - 6th 2019, 181 OA
35. Spencer Smallman - RW - 5th 2015, 138 OA
36. Kirill Slepets - RW - 5th 2019, 152 OA
37. Massimo Rizzo - LW - 7th 2019, 216 OA
38. Cavan Fitzgerald - LHD - undrafted - signed as UFA 2021
39. Sam Miletic - LW - undrafted - signed as UFA 2021

1. Jack LaFontaine - 3rd 2016, 75 OA
2. Pyotr Kochetkov - 2nd 2019, 36 OA
3. Patrik Hamrla - 3rd 2021, 83 OA
4. Eetu Makiniemi - 4th 2017, 104 OA
5. Beck Warm - undrafted - signed as UDFA 2021
6. Nikita Quapp - 6th 2021, 187 OA
7. Yegor Naumov - 7th 2021, 200 OA
8. Jake Kucharski - 7th 2018, 197 OA
9. Dylan Wells - 5th 2016, 123 OA (EDM) - Acquired for future considerations

 

[Unsustainable]

3 of the top 10 are ours

 

[spockBokk]

My list from about a week ago where now realize I listed Sellgren twice:

1-Jarvis
2-Drury
3-Rees
4-Suzuki
5-Bokk
6-Honka
7-Keane
8-Gunler
9-Tieksola
10-Morrow
11-Ponomarev
12-Heimosalmi
13-Sellgren
14-Koivunen
15-Sellgren

I’d now place Cotton at 15

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

3 of the top 10 are ours

It's certainly a very far cry from when our scouting team would draft no Russians at all during the Rutherford and Francis era. Yorke and his scouts are definitely putting their time into the KHL/VHL/MHL now.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

My list:
1. Jarvis
2. Drury
3. Suzuki
4. Morrow
5. Ponomarev
6. Rees
7. Keane
8. Honka
9. Sellgren
10. Bokk
11. Gunler
12. Tieksola
13. Nikishin
14. Killinen
15. Koivunen
16. Cotton
17. Seeley
18. Heimosalmi
19. Guslistov
20. Montgomery

I probably overrate Pono but I think he could make a solid jump in production with some stability on the ice with role and coaching staff.

My biggest risers this season: Morrow (saying a lot as he is already 4th), Killinen (could push for serious 2nd line consideration if he can stay healthy), Bokk (if the guy can find a 60 minute game), Montgomery (who I believe could jump the rest all RS defenders not name Morrow if his offense develops) and Guslistov (he could really grab some attention early with his KHL play). Pashin could sneak up the boards if he get his KHL shot this season.

Biggest chance of falling: Bokk (if hes doesnt find a consistent game his prospect shine will start to fall), Keane (his shine will start to fade if he doesnt get some NHL ice time), Gunler (can he put together a strong season in Sweden), and Rees (can we get a full season without disciplinary distractions?).

 

[NotOpie]

It's certainly a very far cry from when our scouting team would draft no Russians at all during the Rutherford and Francis era. Yorke and his scouts are definitely putting their time into the KHL/VHL/MHL now.

"And with the 15th pick of the 1st round of the 2001 entry draft, the Carolina Hurricanes select Igo Knyazev".....That was enough for Jim Rutherford to hold a nation-based grudge for the rest of his tenure.

 

[NotOpie]

I love looking back at past lists.

We liked Kochetkov better than Ned as recently as last offseason.

See..... I knew there was a reason....

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

3 of the top 10 are ours

I wish my name was Shakir Muhkamadullin

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Skaters:
23 - Bobby Orr

Unbelievable that Bobby ****ing Orr is our 23rd best prospect.

I know it's an old joke already but I refuse to stop calling him this.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Unbelievable that Bobby ****ing Orr is our 23rd best prospect.

he’s 73 and by the time he makes it to the Canes, he’ll be pushing 80. 23rd might be a bit low, but he might lose a step.

 

[2Minutes4Surging]

For Reference - Corey Pronman of the Athletic released his NHL Pipe Line Rankings. 22 yo or younger as of 9/15/21. Canes are at #3.

NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 3 Carolina Hurricanes carried by more than Andrei Svechnikov

"Carolina had a lot of draft picks the past three years, 35 to be precise. The system’s high ranking is primarily due to Andrei Svechnikov being one of the premier young forwards in the game and Martin Necas emerging into a core player. Behind those two, though, is a very long list of players who project to play in the NHL or have a decent chance to play games. You can nitpick the system, there is no premier young defenseman yet, and the goalie depth is just OK, but there is a long list of skaters you can envision playing in the NHL."

1. Svech
2. Necas
3. Jarvis
4. Bokk
5. Suzuki
6. Rees
7. Gunler
8. Robidas
9. Morrow
10. Drury
11. Blake
12. Heimosalmi
    
13. Hreschuk
14. Koivunen
    
15. Ponomarev

HMs: Keane, Warm, Kochetkov, Seeley, Nybeck, Fensore, Mattheos, Killinen, Tieksola, Honka, Nystrom, Puistola

 

[WreckingCrew]

For Reference - Corey Pronman of the Athletic released his NHL Pipe Line Rankings. 22 yo or younger as of 9/15/21. Canes are at #3.

NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 3 Carolina Hurricanes carried by more than Andrei Svechnikov

"Carolina had a lot of draft picks the past three years, 35 to be precise. The system’s high ranking is primarily due to Andrei Svechnikov being one of the premier young forwards in the game and Martin Necas emerging into a core player. Behind those two, though, is a very long list of players who project to play in the NHL or have a decent chance to play games. You can nitpick the system, there is no premier young defenseman yet, and the goalie depth is just OK, but there is a long list of skaters you can envision playing in the NHL."

1. Svech
2. Necas
3. Jarvis
4. Bokk
5. Suzuki
6. Rees
7. Gunler
8. Robidas
9. Morrow
10. Drury
11. Blake
12. Heimosalmi
    
13. Hreschuk
14. Koivunen
    
15. Ponomarev

HMs: Keane, Warm, Kochetkov, Seeley, Nybeck, Fensore, Mattheos, Killinen, Tieksola, Honka, Nystrom, Puistola

When your HM list has that much quality AND quantity, that's pretty solid!

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

My list:

1. Jarvis
2. Drury
3. Rees
4. Suzuki
5. Bokk
6. Morrow
7. Nikishin
8. Ponomaryov
9. Gunler
10. Tieksola
11. Heimosalmi
12. Puistola
13. Keane
14. Koivunen
15. Guslistov

G:
1. Kochetkov
2. LaFontaine
3. Makiniemi
4. Hamrla

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

When your HM list has that much quality AND quantity, that's pretty solid!

I don’t even know enough about our own prospects, even less so for other teams. Our HM is made up of 1 second rounder and, a number of 3rd/4th rounders, a couple 7th rounders and an undrafted guy. Is that much different than other teams? Or because of the sheer number of picks the canes have had in recent years, there are more “darts”/depth?

 

[emptyNedder]

1. Jarvis
2. Drury
3. Morrow
4. Suzuki
5. Seeley
6. Koivunen
7. Sellgren
8. Rees
9. Bokk
10. Hreschuk
11. Tieksola
12. Puistola
13. Honka
14. Ponomarov
15. Heimosalmi

1. Makiniemi
2. Lafontaine
3. Hamrla
4. Kochetkov

 

[2Minutes4Surging]

I always find this hard to do. Do you rank them by current skill, projectable skill, likelihood of making the NHL, projected impact if they make the NHL, perceived trade value, etc.? Anyways, here's my shot at it:

1. Jarvis
2. Drury
3. Suzuki
4. Ponomarov
5. Rees
6. Morrow
7. Koivunen
8. Bokk
9. Gunler
   
10. Keane
    
11. Tieksola
12. Sellgren
13. Heimosalmi
    
14. Nikishin
15. Guslistov

1. Kochetkov
2. Makiniemi
3. Lafontaine
4. Hamrla
5. Warm

 

[NotOpie]

I'm not sure if this in more hope than logic, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Tieksola tear up the AHL.

 

[EXTRAS]

Kinda surprised at the lack of beck warm given as a 21 year old rookie he was top 10 in AHL goalies sv percentage.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Kinda surprised at the lack of beck warm given as a 21 year old rookie he was top 10 in AHL goalies sv percentage.

After the prospect showcase, he wasn’t going to get much playing time. With Rod saying the NHL starters will get all 4 games, I would be surprised if most of the goalies aren’t cut during the next round.

 

[neelynugs]

Goalies:
1 - Pyotr Kochetkov - 4 first place votes
2 - Jack LaFontaine - 4 first place votes
3 - Eetu Makiniemi - 3 first place votes
4 - Patrik Hamrla
5 - Beck Warm
T6 - Jake Kucharski
T6 - Dylan Wells

Skaters:
1 - Seth Jarvis - 11 first place votes
2 - Jack Drury - 1 first place vote
3 - Ryan Suzuki
4 - Jamieson Rees
T5 - Dominik Bokk
T5 - Scott Morrow
7 - Noel Gunler
8 - Vasili Ponomaryov
9 - Ville Koivunen
10 - Aleksi Heimosalmi
11 - Tuukka Tieksola
12 - Jesper Sellgren
13 - Joey Keane
14 - Anttoni Honka
15 - Ronan Seeley
16 - David Cotton
17 - Patrik Puistola
18 - Alexander Nikishin
19 - Aidan Hreschuk
20 - Stelio Mattheos
21 - Blake Murray
22 - Alexander Pashin
23 - Bobby Orr
T24 - Kevin Wall
T24 - Dominik Fensore

talking updated top 10 on the prospects board. how's this looking 5 months later?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

talking updated top 10 on the prospects board. how's this looking 5 months later?

Goalies are
Kochetkov, Makiniemi, Quapp, Warm

Skaters
Jarvis, Drury, Morrow, Suzuki, Seeley, Nishikin, Rees, Koivunen, Pono, Honka, Bokk, Sellgren, Wall, Keane, Jackson Blake, Rizzo, Robidas (then carry the list however you wish)

Morrow, Seeley, Nishikin are risers
newcomers Jackson Blake and Robidas
Bokk, Tieksola, and Gunler are fallers. Bokk is recovering some now.

edit: Robidas and Koivunen are probably underrated on this list but these group is so deep.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Goalies are
Kochetkov, Makiniemi, Quapp, Warm

Skaters
Jarvis, Drury, Morrow, Suzuki, Seeley, Nishikin, Rees, Koivunen, Pono, Honka, Bokk, Sellgren, Wall, Keane, Jackson Blake, Rizzo, Robidas (then carry the list however you wish)

Morrow, Seeley, Nishikin are risers
newcomers Jackson Blake and Robidas
Bokk, Tieksola, and Gunler are fallers. Bokk is recovering some now.

edit: Robidas and Koivunen are probably underrated on this list but these group is so deep.

Yeah, from all I've seen, heard and read, he should be in the riser group as well. I know everyone likes the big hits by Nishikin, but Koivunen has a lot of skills, work ethic, and intelligence that "seems" like they'd translate well to the NHL.