Top-40 Stanley Cup Playoff Performers of All-Time - Preliminary Discussion Thread

[quoipourquoi]

But then we should allow for the submitting of Round 1 lists (read, Top-60) during Vote 1 or Vote 2 of Round 2.

Because 13 participants is... well, it works, it's just that there's very little leeway.

Oh, absolutely. I'll take it through Votes 1 and 2 and adjust the aggregate accordingly.

 

[Black Gold Extractor]

Not sure if this would help, especially since I'm still not entirely familiar with the pre-O6 era. (If it doesn't help, please disregard.)

Sorted into era when player established himself, then by position, and finally alphabetically:

Challenge era

Frank McGee
Marty Walsh

Pre-consolidation (1914-1927)

Cy Denneny (LW)
Newsy Lalonde (C)
Howie Morenz (C)
Frank Nighbor (LW/C)

Georges Boucher (D)

Clint Benedict (G)
Georges Vezina (G)

Post-consolidation, pre-WWII (1927-1939)

Marty Barry (C)
Frank Boucher (C)
Cooney Weiland (C)

Dit Clapper (D/RW)
Earl Seibert (D)
Eddie Shore (D)

Forties (1939-1949)

Toe Blake (LW)
Ted Kennedy (C)
Elmer Lach (C)
Maurice Richard (RW)

Frank Brimsek (G)
Turk Broda (G)
Bill Durnan (G)

Fifties (1949-1959)

Jean Beliveau (C)
Bernie Geoffrion (RW)
Gordie Howe (RW)
Dickie Moore (LW)

Doug Harvey (D)
Red Kelly (D)

Jacques Plante (G)
Terry Sawchuk (G)

Sixties (1959-1969)

Bobby Hull (LW)
Stan Mikita (C)
Henri Richard (C)
Norm Ullman (C)

Tim Horton (D)
Pierre Pilote (D)
J.C. Tremblay (D)

Johnny Bower (G)
Rogie Vachon (G)

Seventies (1969-1979)

Bobby Clarke (C)
Phil Esposito (C)
Guy Lafleur (RW)
Rick MacLeish (C)

Bobby Orr (D)
Larry Robinson (D)

Ken Dryden (G)
Bernie Parent (G)

Post-merger (1979-1994)

Mike Bossy (RW)
Doug Gilmour (C)
Wayne Gretzky (C)
Jari Kurri (RW)
Mario Lemieux (C)
Mark Messier (C)
Bryan Trottier (C)

Ray Bourque (D)
Paul Coffey (D)
Brian Leetch (D)
Al MacInnis (D)
Denis Potvin (D)

Patrick Roy (G)
Billy Smith (G)

Dead-puck era (1995-2004)

Sergei Fedorov (C)
Peter Forsberg (C)
Joe Sakic (C)
Steve Yzerman (C)

Nicklas Lidstrom (D)

Martin Brodeur (G)

Post-lockout (2005-present)

Sidney Crosby (C)
Patrick Kane (RW)
Evgeni Malkin (C)
Henrik Zetterberg (LW/C)

Duncan Keith (D)

Jonathan Quick (G)

 

[DNA]

Not sure if this would help, especially since I'm still not entirely familiar with the pre-O6 era. (If it doesn't help, please disregard.)

Sorted into era when player established himself, then by position, and finally alphabetically:

Challenge era

Frank McGee
Marty Walsh

Pre-consolidation (1914-1927)

Cy Denneny (LW)
Newsy Lalonde (C)
Howie Morenz (C)
Frank Nighbor (LW/C)

Georges Boucher (D)

Clint Benedict (G)
Georges Vezina (G)

Post-consolidation, pre-WWII (1927-1939)

Marty Barry (C)
Frank Boucher (C)
Cooney Weiland (C)

Dit Clapper (D/RW)
Earl Seibert (D)
Eddie Shore (D)

Forties (1939-1949)

Toe Blake (LW)
Ted Kennedy (C)
Elmer Lach (C)
Maurice Richard (RW)

Frank Brimsek (G)
Turk Broda (G)
Bill Durnan (G)

Fifties (1949-1959)

Jean Beliveau (C)
Bernie Geoffrion (RW)
Gordie Howe (RW)
Dickie Moore (LW)

Doug Harvey (D)
Red Kelly (D)

Jacques Plante (G)
Terry Sawchuk (G)

Sixties (1959-1969)

Bobby Hull (LW)
Stan Mikita (C)
Henri Richard (C)
Norm Ullman (C)

Tim Horton (D)
Pierre Pilote (D)
J.C. Tremblay (D)

Johnny Bower (G)
Rogie Vachon (G)

Seventies (1969-1979)

Bobby Clarke (C)
Phil Esposito (C)
Guy Lafleur (RW)
Rick MacLeish (C)

Bobby Orr (D)
Larry Robinson (D)

Ken Dryden (G)
Bernie Parent (G)

Post-merger (1979-1994)

Mike Bossy (RW)
Doug Gilmour (C)
Wayne Gretzky (C)
Jari Kurri (RW)
Mario Lemieux (C)
Mark Messier (C)
Bryan Trottier (C)

Ray Bourque (D)
Paul Coffey (D)
Brian Leetch (D)
Al MacInnis (D)
Denis Potvin (D)

Patrick Roy (G)
Billy Smith (G)

Dead-puck era (1995-2004)

Sergei Fedorov (C)
Peter Forsberg (C)
Joe Sakic (C)
Steve Yzerman (C)

Nicklas Lidstrom (D)

Martin Brodeur (G)

Post-lockout (2005-present)

Sidney Crosby (C)
Patrick Kane (RW)
Evgeni Malkin (C)
Henrik Zetterberg (LW/C)

Duncan Keith (D)

Jonathan Quick (G)

Marty Walsh over Dan Bain??

No Lester Patrick, Jack Marshall, or Jack Darragh?

Norm Ullman over Dave Keon?

Bobby Hull, really? Well, ok...

No Yvan Cournoyer, Serge Savard, Jacques Lemaire, or Bob Gainey? Not a Habs fan I guess...

No mention of Glenn Anderson, wow!

No Niedermayer, Pronger, or Chelios? At least one of them, I should think, if not 2!

And the most egregious of all, no Toews!!! The hatred for this guy here is beyond reproach!

 

[MXD]

Marty Walsh over Dan Bain??

No Lester Patrick, Jack Marshall, or Jack Darragh?

No Dave Keon?

Bobby Hull, really. Well, ok...

No Yvan Cournoyer, Serge Savard, Jacques Lemaire, or Bob Gainey? Not a Habs fan I guess...

No mention of Glenn Anderson, wow!

No Niedermayer, Pronger, or Chelios? At least one of them, I should think!

And the most egregious of all, no Toews!!! The hatred for this guy here is beyond reproach!

To be honest, he named 60, and there's no room for every player you named IF you keep the list at 60.

There are some misses I disagree with, but they're on the level of JC Tremblay/Charlie Gardiner/Serge Savard/Frank Foyston (or, healthy disagreement). In fact, my biggest issues are probably Eddie Shore and Bill Durnan, who are both (especially the latter) better kept a few miles away from the list.

 

[MXD]

Hey BGE, did you submit a list?

 

[bobholly39]

To be honest, he named 60, and there's no room for every player you named IF you keep the list at 60.

There are some misses I disagree with, but they're on the level of JC Tremblay/Charlie Gardiner/Serge Savard/Frank Foyston (or, healthy disagreement). In fact, my biggest issues are probably Eddie Shore and Bill Durnan, who are both (especially the latter) better kept a few miles away from the list.

He named more than 60. 70 or so.

Not sure if it's a list or just some idea of per era candidates

 

[Black Gold Extractor]

Hey BGE, did you submit a list?

No, I didn't officially submit a list. My knowledge of pre-O6 era players is shallow, which would have inherently biased a list toward more modern players.

 

[quoipourquoi]

No, I didn't officially submit a list. My knowledge of pre-O6 era players is shallow, which would have inherently biased a list toward more modern players.

So is mine and I'm administrating the project. Get me a list.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Mine is mostly O6 and sooner players too...I think the format of the playoffs rightfully (?) biases the list in that direction to a degree...I don't have none (pre-war), but I don't have a lot...

Get him a list ^

 

[BenchBrawl]

No, I didn't officially submit a list. My knowledge of pre-O6 era players is shallow, which would have inherently biased a list toward more modern players.

You should submit a list, just in the post where you listed many players it's obvious you know enough to submit a decent one, and then we can have more participants.

 

[DNA]

Mine is mostly O6 and sooner players too...I think the format of the playoffs rightfully (?) biases the list in that direction to a degree...I don't have none (pre-war), but I don't have a lot...

Can we assume your avatar is your #1? Because he would be mine.

 

[Michael Farkas]

He is not, unfortunately. But he features prominently, as anyone would expect...

 

[Black Gold Extractor]

So is mine and I'm administrating the project. Get me a list.

I'll get on it after work, and I'll have all of tomorrow to make something that's not totally terrible (hopefully).

 

[DNA]

To be honest, he named 60, and there's no room for every player you named IF you keep the list at 60.

There are some misses I disagree with, but they're on the level of JC Tremblay/Charlie Gardiner/Serge Savard/Frank Foyston (or, healthy disagreement). In fact, my biggest issues are probably Eddie Shore and Bill Durnan, who are both (especially the latter) better kept a few miles away from the list.

I noticed you 'refurbished' my comment about Ullman over Keon, by quoting me as simply saying "no Keon?" I am in no way saying Keon's a lock for the top 60, let alone 40. But Ullman?

EDIT: I think I edited my post after you responded MXD, so sincere apologies, if so, my bad...

 

[MXD]

I noticed you 'refurbished' my comment about Ullman over Keon, by quoting me as simply saying "no Keon?" I am in no way saying Keon's a lock for the top 60, let alone 40. But Ullman? Please try to avoid misquoting me...

... Pardon?

 

[quoipourquoi]

I'll get on it after work, and I'll have all of tomorrow to make something that's not totally terrible (hopefully).

Awesome. We'll launch with what we have now, and we'll screen and factor your list into the aggregate on the fly. If all goes according to plan, we'll have a top-40 list just in time for the Stanley Cup parade.