Seravalli: Toffoli will not re-sign in Calgary, wants to be traded

[crazyfisherman]

im actually chuckling right now. Who knew players can force a rebuild, glad they did tho

 

[Gentle Man]

 

[Kranix]

It's because Murray Edwards had a 10 foot portrait of Darryl hung in the dressing room after he was fired. Well poisoned.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Seriously though, this is excellent news. Of all of the Flames players that are UFA next year, Toffoli is the one that needs to be moved the most. Given his age and the season he just had, no better time to sell high.

Re-signing him to a longterm deal would have been catastrophic

 

[GKJ]

All this news to me just points towards an organizational shift. Conroy isn't willing to pay these guys what they want or think they are worth, and that's perfectly fine with me.

That’s how I’m seeing it. We know Conroy wanted to get younger. These guys don’t.

 

[bossram]

Everyone getting off the bus in Calgary. Forced rebuild.

The writing is on the wall here. Sell off all these guys for assets to kick-start a rebuild.

 

[CgyFlamesftw]

Conroy said he wanted youth and a retool. It’s good they are selling 4 players, with the lack of UFA a lot of teams will be calling Calgary this off season.

 

[iCanada]

The writing is on the wall here. Sell off all these guys for assets to kick-start a rebuild.

Doesn't Montreal have Calgary's 1st round pick next year from the Monahan deal?

 

[joestevens29]

Hold onto him until the deadline.

Might be better to move on now. Sure deadline you can get some stupid prices, but heaven forbid there is an injury to the guy and you can't move him.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Players don’t want to play in Winnipeg nor Calgary.

Bring a team back to Atlanta!

 

[John Mandalorian]

Carolina? Maybe colorado?

No on Colorado.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Conroy said he wanted youth and a retool. It’s good they are selling 4 players, with the lack of UFA a lot of teams will be calling Calgary this off season.

I mean this the year to trade.

They're all cheap, so they could get solid return

 

[habsterr]

Doesn't Montreal have Calgary's 1st round pick next year from the Monahan deal?

Sorta could be Florida's or Calgary depending on season in 24/25/26.

Toffoli is great solid player.

 

[DRAGO 18]

*Seravalli an hour from now*

Breaking News: Joel Otto is not going to re-sign in Calgary.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Doesn't Montreal have Calgary's 1st round pick next year from the Monahan deal?

For 2024, the Flames pick is top 19 protected. Habs option to take it if it's 20 to 32.

Where things get tricky for CGY with the pick they traded to MTL if they go full scorched earth is 2025. They are basically at the mercy of the Panthers. They would need FLA to NOT have a top 10 pick in 2024 or 2025. That is obviously a very likely scenario but it's still gotta be a concern if you are Conroy.

 

[crazyfisherman]

Doesn't Montreal have Calgary's 1st round pick next year from the Monahan deal?

Only if its 20-32, and theres no way its gonna be that. Mtl also have the choice to defer it to next yr anyway

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Yeah. Now is year #1 of Huberdeau and Weegar monster deals. Not ideal.

These deals are actually a blessing in a way because they allow the Flames to be aggressive in trading these pending UFAs for futures, without having to worry about the floor. Plus, they give potential young players some vets to play with.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Doesn't Montreal have Calgary's 1st round pick next year from the Monahan deal?

in 2025, yeah. It's the 2024 1st if it's 20-32, but protected in the absolute stupidest way possible when the Flames will be Markstrom, Huberdeau, Kadri, and a bunch of AHLers

 

[Donner]

I am starting to think the players dont trust Conroy

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I could see him going to a team like Detroit

 

[Donner]

These deals are actually a blessing in a way because they allow the Flames to be aggressive in trading these pending UFAs for futures, without having to worry about the floor. Plus, they give potential young players some vets to play with.

It is true. If you are a bottom dweller for 4-5 years it doesnt really matter to have some albatross contracts

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I am starting to think the players dont trust Conroy

Hard to trust a guy who was running shotgun while Treliving destroyed your team.

Also hard to trust a guy who said "we're 100% going to get Gaudreau signed"

 

[HighLifeMan]

in 2025, yeah. It's the 2024 1st if it's 20-32, but completely unprotected in 2025, when the Flames will be Markstrom, Huberdeau, Kadri, and a bunch of AHLers

That's not true at all.

Hard to trust a guy who was running shotgun while Treliving destroyed your team.

Also hard to trust a guy who said "we're 100% going to get Gaudreau signed"

It's funny you bring that up. All of this news today is 100% due to Conroy learning from being strung along by Gaudreau.

He's not going to let assets burn him again.

 

[jackjohnson]

The writing is on the wall here. Sell off all these guys for assets to kick-start a rebuild.

what will they do with the Kadri, Uber doo and Markstrom contracts lol. Once those guys care even less and degrade even more, their cap hit would be a huge burden on the Flames, especially Huberdeau. I see a buyout for one or two of them down the road

 

[End on a Hinote]

Let's face it, the Canadian teams (and Buffalo) are now just glorified development franchises for young players to tone their skills before getting sent to tax free states to win the Cup.