Seravalli: Toffoli will not re-sign in Calgary, wants to be traded

[VijayPatel11]

...well...thanks for that 1st rounder in the Monahan trade...

How'd that work out with chiarot?

 

[Bond]

Why? BecauE we get the worst of the 2026 pick?

Nope, the only pick they can choose to defer is if the Flames 24 pick is in the 20-32 range which is basically out the door. Everything else is pre-determined conditions.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

How'd that work out with chiarot?

...well...we got a free first rounder...and if Pitt hadn't completely shyte the bed in the last two weeks of the season, it would have been #15...so...thanks to Florida, too...

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Andersson gets at least Bourgault, Broberg, and 1st.

Toffoli value is better than the other pieces, so it's close, but idk if I'd quite do it.

I’d do that (Bourgault, Broberg, 1st) for Andersson if we included Ceci to offset the cap. I know Holland probably won’t move Broberg but Andersson is absolutely what this club needs and that’s a price any team serious should be willing to pay. Hell I’d probably even be cool with also including the 2nd. We can just leave Toffoli out of it.

I wouldn’t expect any Flames fans to like this seeing a top pairing guy going to Edmonton so I expect this will get thrashed on too.

 

[muddywaters]

Last one to leave turn out the lights ..

 

[Bond]

I’d do that (Bourgault, Broberg, 1st) for Andersson if we included Ceci to offset the cap. I know Holland probably won’t move Broberg but Andersson is absolutely what this club needs and that’s a price any team serious should be willing to pay. Hell I’d probably even be cool with also including the 2nd. We can just leave Toffoli out of it.

I wouldn’t expect any Flames fans to like this seeing a top pairing guy going to Edmonton so I expect this will get thrashed on too.

Yeah, can't be giving the Oiler's exactly what they need unless it is a Hull like overpayment and none of those pieces are that lol

 

[MarkovsKnee]

How'd that work out with chiarot?

I mean, we still got a 1st round pick for him in a freaking deep draft. We haven't even made the selection yet, so, yeah, so far it's working out.

 

[VijayPatel11]

I mean, we still got a 1st round pick for him in a freaking deep draft. We haven't even made the selection yet, so, yeah, so far it's working out.

Im talking about you montreal fans acting like you have another top 10 pick halfway into the season / before the season starts in this case... don't get too excited about it just yet

 

[Ace Rimmer]

You're right, I stand corrected, it's this idiot-ass scenario instead

*Conditions: 1. If CGY’s 2024 1st round pick is between 20 and 32, MTL can take that pick instead. Result: TBD

Scenario: In the event CGY receives FLA’s 2025 1st round pick:
1. If both CGY AND FLA’s picks are NOT top 10, MTL will receive the better of the CGY and FLA 2025 1st round picks. Result: TBD

2. If CGY’s pick is top 10, AND FLA’s pick is NOT top 10, MTL receives FLA’s pick. Result: TBD


Scenario: In the event CGY does NOT receive FLA’s 1st round pick:

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is NOT top 10
1. MTL will receive the CGY pick, and
2. If FLA’s pick is not top 10, is a better pick than CGY’s, and was transferred to another team due to prior conditions, MTL will also receive CGY’s 2025 4th round pick.
Result: TBD

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is top 10:
1. If CGY’s pick is 1st overall, MTL will receive CGY’s 2025 3rd, and the better of CGY and FLA’s 2026 1st round pick. Result: TBD
2. If CGY’s pick is 2nd to 10th, MTL receives CGY’s 2025 1st round pick. Result: TBD

It's Schrodinger's Draft Pick

 

[AmeriHab]

...well...thanks for that 1st rounder in the Monahan trade...

Shhhhhh. Remember when we thought we'd get another high pick from FL

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Im talking about you montreal fans acting like you have another top 10 pick halfway into the season / before the season starts in this case... don't get too excited about it just yet

Well, sure, because it looked like we could. Any other fan base would have been screaming about it too. This is a great draft. But, Florida got it together. We're rebuilding so we'll take what we can get. And, yes, we'll definitely get over excited about the 2025 picks too. Lol

Chill out.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Shhhhhh. Remember when we thought we'd get another high pick from FL

...and we were one week of Pitt not shytting the bed away from it...

 

[Victor000]

Zadorov won't re-sign in Calgary. Tanev won't re-sign in Calgary. Kylington won't re-sign Calgary. We GET IT!

I think we all know who's next:

 

[Stealth JD]

He really should have waited 3-6 months before signing his extension to see how things would be. Calgary was in panic mode with that deal so they could show that people want to sign long term here, after Gaudreau and Tkachuk wanted out. Both sides should have waited a bit.

LOL - what? Somebody offers you $84M, you sign immediately. Imagine how much he would have cost himself by waiting 3-6 months. If he was signing as a UFA on July 1, coming off of that season…what kind of money do you think he’s being offered?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I wonder if Ottawa gets in on this with some of the assets from the Debrincat trade. I could see him re-signing here.

 

[Guess]

There's going to be many suitors for Toffoli. 2023 1st, 2024 1st for Toffoli with extension.

Pay up Toronto.

Don't get this. Toffoli got traded for a low first and a meh prospect when he had a good contract the Habs gave him, AND he was younger. Doubt you will get two firsts, or even the amount the Habs got.

 

[Mike Jones]

It would have to happen simultaneously. The Flames owner moves team to Houston while the private owner gets an expansion team approved in Calgary. I really don't think Buttman wants to lose Calgary Flames revenue

He has to realize that the Flames demands are really taking this market to a bad place and they're going to lose big time if they keep up the pressure on people like taxpayers who have absolutely no interest in hockey.

 

[Bond]

Don't get this. Toffoli got traded for a low first and a meh prospect when he had a good contract the Habs gave him, AND he was younger. Doubt you will get two firsts, or even the amount the Habs got.

He just had his best season and is on a cheap contract. He'll get about the same as the Habs got

 

[Double Dion]

Let's ignore that the Oilers and Flames have never had a major trade.

To the Oilers: Tyler Toffoli and Rasmus Andersson

To the Flames: Cody Ceci, Kailer Yamamoto, 2024 1st(unprotected) Phillip Broberg, Xavier Bourgault, and 2025 2nd

2 cap dumps and a bunch of scraps? Sounds like a great deal! You're close if you take Andersson out of it.

 

[Homesick]

2 cap dumps and a bunch of scraps? Sounds like a great deal! You're close if you take Andersson out of it.

Broberg, Bourgault, and a 1st are scraps? Guess no one will be able to match what the Flames got for Gaudreau and Tkachuk

 

[Oddbob]

LOL - what? Somebody offers you $84M, you sign immediately. Imagine how much he would have cost himself by waiting 3-6 months. If he was signing as a UFA on July 1, coming off of that season…what kind of money do you think he’s being offered?

He would still have gotten that as a free agent. People acting like one off season completely blows up what you just did the 3-4 season prior and in today's UFA environment for a top player. In fact he probably gets more going to UFA as someone would have paid him greatly. He didn't get 84 mil for just the season he had prior, he got it for the other parts of his career as well. The UFA market is devoid of any stars and if he had his this year's market he would easily be the #1 target.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

LOL - what? Somebody offers you $84M, you sign immediately. Imagine how much he would have cost himself by waiting 3-6 months. If he was signing as a UFA on July 1, coming off of that season…what kind of money do you think he’s being offered?

Some players bet against themselves, while others see that pay check and know they aren't going to get an offer nearly as good as that again.

I think Huberdeau cashed in and checked out.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Players don’t want to play in Winnipeg nor Calgary.

Bring a team back to Atlanta!

Fans don’t want to support a team in Atlanta.

 

[Petes2424]

Going to be a wild draft for for flames fans. This is the year to get good draft picks.

Problem is, they’ll probably end up with picks in 2024.

 

[Andrewcoursol]

Flames players forcing the decision to rebuild. Time to burn it down

flames rebuild would be nice, especially the fact that the habs own a flames upcoming first round pick regardless of conditions attached to it.