Proposal: To Ottawa Konecny, Frost, Hathaway. To Flyers Batherson, Greig, (Boston 1st rd pick)
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So Konecny for Batherson and Boston 1st and Greig for frost and Hathaway. Close but I think Ottawa needs to add another piece
stempniaksen
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Konecny is great but hell no from this Sens fan. That’s ammo that could be used to fill an actual need at RD or G instead of an expensive upgrade on Batherson.
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xVolchenkov
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No interest in Hathaway or Frost
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Fight4yourRight
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Would ask for 1st rounder switch: Philly gets Ott’s around 8 and ott gets Philly’s 16th. Void if Ott is lower 4-5 and Phila is getting in
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I wouldn’t do this.
I don’t like the value for TK.
I don’t like the value for TK.
Why trade all of that when you can just sign Konecny as a UFA if he is willing to sign an extension.
Terrible deal for Ottawa.
Replace Frost with Foerster and Hathaway with Laughton, but I still wouldn't want to move Greig.
Terrible deal for Ottawa.
Replace Frost with Foerster and Hathaway with Laughton, but I still wouldn't want to move Greig.
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All for the Sens making some changes to the core forwards.
Not at the expense of Grieg though.
Not at the expense of Grieg though.
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This is so laughably bad for the Flyers that I don't know where to start.
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I don't hate Konecny for prospect + top-10 1st as a base, but this aint cutting it. Flyers move on from the superior young talent (Frost > Greig), the better top-6 roster player (Konecny > Batherson) and on top of that lose a great role player and a good mentor (Hathaway). I think Konecny, if moved at all, should be used to acquire a real PPG center.
When I saw Konecny to Ottawa I thought to my self this is hundred percent a Tkachuk trade.. nope lol
Limeyjim
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Konecny is one of the best players in the league on the PK, he was just recently given the A on his jersey, he works well in Tort's system, he's loves playing in Philly and raising his family there. In other words, he's not being traded. Danny Briere and Jonesy have been working with Tort's to build, and Konecny is a 26 year old core member of this team. You don't trade an important core member who's in his 20's for a prospect.
Absolutely rubbish proposal. I also wouldn't include Foerster in any trade package, that kid is going to be a star player.
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It’s at least 3 1st round picks for Konecny. The Flyers had a 1st and 2nd on the table for Laughton and wouldn’t do it while telling people they’re rebuilding. Konecny is the franchise player.
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This thread like most will get the per usual bickering & uninformed responses, but Ottawa needs to focus on getting a top 4 RD & goalie long before they look at a forward acquisition.
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Rich Nixon
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Usually when both fanbases are saying "this is terrible for my team" it's actually a good proposal. In this case, it isn't. It's just a terrible proposal. Utterly pointless from both perspectives.
Batherson is a worse player than Konecny and is all of one year younger. Konecny is a valuable scorer and PKer who wears an A for his team. Batherson has a cheaper, longer deal—Konecny's a UFA after next season. So this checks 0 boxes for either team.
Greig is a good and interesting player, but I don't think talent-wise he's a huge upgrade over Frost. He's just 3 years younger and hasn't had the time to be jerked around by as many moron coaches and GMs as Frost has yet (Morgan also lost an early pro season to injury).
Hathaway is a meaningless add. He's just a better MacEwen.
The Boston 1st is likely in the 25+ range. Is, say, the 27th overall pick enough to get the Flyers to tear up their team chemistry, turn 3 forwards into 2, and get marginally younger without getting more talented? No. f*** no. Why would they do that?
And from the Sens perspective, why are they giving up a solid pick for a lateral move that just makes them older (and adds a plug 4th liner?) Also puts them in a position of once again trading good assets for a guy with little term left who is unlikely to stick around.
Dumb. Helps no one.
I don't think he thinks that. I think it's how the Flyers treat him though, absolutely—and his contract extension will sadly reflect that in a couple months.
Batherson is a worse player than Konecny and is all of one year younger. Konecny is a valuable scorer and PKer who wears an A for his team. Batherson has a cheaper, longer deal—Konecny's a UFA after next season. So this checks 0 boxes for either team.
Greig is a good and interesting player, but I don't think talent-wise he's a huge upgrade over Frost. He's just 3 years younger and hasn't had the time to be jerked around by as many moron coaches and GMs as Frost has yet (Morgan also lost an early pro season to injury).
Hathaway is a meaningless add. He's just a better MacEwen.
The Boston 1st is likely in the 25+ range. Is, say, the 27th overall pick enough to get the Flyers to tear up their team chemistry, turn 3 forwards into 2, and get marginally younger without getting more talented? No. f*** no. Why would they do that?
And from the Sens perspective, why are they giving up a solid pick for a lateral move that just makes them older (and adds a plug 4th liner?) Also puts them in a position of once again trading good assets for a guy with little term left who is unlikely to stick around.
Dumb. Helps no one.
I don't think he thinks that. I think it's how the Flyers treat him though, absolutely—and his contract extension will sadly reflect that in a couple months.
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ponder719
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Our franchise player is Michkov, but look at a handful of players who've returned at least a #1 in the past couple years: Alex Newhook, Rasmus Ristolainen, Sam Reinhart, Andrew Copp, Barclay Goodrow, Ben Chiarot... Konecny's more valuable, IMO, than any of those names, and should return commensurately more.
