WC: Ticket prices and people losing tons of money

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NucksRuleYep

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When tickets went on sale last year, I picked up 2 tickets in the nosebleeds with the plan of going to Toronto and binging on hockey with my buddy who lives there. Well, I never got the time off work, but I figured no problem I will just sell the tickets on stubhub for a profit. I've done it before. Long story short... I paid $3100 CDN for 2 nosebleed tickets in the purples for all 16 games and I sold those 16 games for $1800 CDN after conversion. And I got lucky with a few of them, selling right before value dropped. So I lost $1300. If it goes to a 17th game (if Europe manages to win one) then I pay another $200 and might make $200 more maybe. Not going to help much. Now you'd think I'd be upset, but I totally am not. First of all, $1300 is not a huge deal and I've won and lost more money than that many times over. In actuality, I am grateful and here is the real climax of this thread...........

Today I was talking to my brother in law who lives in Ottawa and he said that he knew a guy who had taken out a HELOC (line of credit on his house) in Ottawa that he works with and bought 100 tickets to the world cup in various sections for almost $300,000. He said that when this guy did it, he was bragging to everyone that he was going to sell the tickets for 2x the price and managed to convince a lot of other people in the office to buy tickets. Apparently almost everyone in the office bought 2 or 4 tickets based on this guy saying it was guaranteed money (my BIL didn't buy any, lucky...) The guy's justification was that it was "Toronto" and ticket prices would be "insane" and inventory extremely limited. He apparently thought he could double his money to $600,000 and pay back the HELOC and walk away with a cool $300k.

I asked my BIL how the guy feels now, and he said no one has heard from him and he called in sick all of last week. The week before that he was telling people that no worries, the final games would go for $1000 each and he would make back his money. Knowing what I know about the market, he will be lucky to get 50% of his money back because higher end seats are selling worse. So he lost probably $150,000. I wonder how many more people there are like him?

I guess the NHL is probably laughing all the way to the bank though, so I hope they made enough money :)
 

Sens Rule

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When tickets went on sale last year, I picked up 2 tickets in the nosebleeds with the plan of going to Toronto and binging on hockey with my buddy who lives there. Well, I never got the time off work, but I figured no problem I will just sell the tickets on stubhub for a profit. I've done it before. Long story short... I paid $3100 CDN for 2 nosebleed tickets in the purples for all 16 games and I sold those 16 games for $1800 CDN after conversion. And I got lucky with a few of them, selling right before value dropped. So I lost $1300. If it goes to a 17th game (if Europe manages to win one) then I pay another $200 and might make $200 more maybe. Not going to help much. Now you'd think I'd be upset, but I totally am not. First of all, $1300 is not a huge deal and I've won and lost more money than that many times over. In actuality, I am grateful and here is the real climax of this thread...........

Today I was talking to my brother in law who lives in Ottawa and he said that he knew a guy who had taken out a HELOC (line of credit on his house) in Ottawa that he works with and bought 100 tickets to the world cup in various sections for almost $300,000. He said that when this guy did it, he was bragging to everyone that he was going to sell the tickets for 2x the price and managed to convince a lot of other people in the office to buy tickets. Apparently almost everyone in the office bought 2 or 4 tickets based on this guy saying it was guaranteed money (my BIL didn't buy any, lucky...) The guy's justification was that it was "Toronto" and ticket prices would be "insane" and inventory extremely limited. He apparently thought he could double his money to $600,000 and pay back the HELOC and walk away with a cool $300k.

I asked my BIL how the guy feels now, and he said no one has heard from him and he called in sick all of last week. The week before that he was telling people that no worries, the final games would go for $1000 each and he would make back his money. Knowing what I know about the market, he will be lucky to get 50% of his money back because higher end seats are selling worse. So he lost probably $150,000. I wonder how many more people there are like him?

I guess the NHL is probably laughing all the way to the bank though, so I hope they made enough money :)

That guy was an idiot to borrow $300k to buy tickets. Like that was crazy stupid and a huge risk. Why would anyone do that?
 

MayDay

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Scalpers lost a ton of money trying to speculate on tickets?

Hmm...GOOD!

Those people deserve what they get. Like stock market speculators. Produce nothing of value themselves but try to make a quick buck gaming the system and screwing the little guy. Those people deserve to get burned.
 

PensPlz

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Just like gambling at a casino or playing with the stock market: never do it with money you can't afford to lose.

That being said, I can't wrap my mind around why the common person would pay so much for just a couple games of this tournament in the first place. Bad investment all around, and the those ticket prices were delusional in the first place. This wasn't the Superbowl.
 

VanIslander

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... I will just sell the tickets on stubhub for a profit. I've done it before. Long story short... I paid $3100 CDN for 2 nosebleed tickets in the purples for all 16 games and I sold those 16 games for $1800 CDN after conversion. And I got lucky with a few of them, selling right before value dropped.
Stop being a scalper!

If you try to make extra money, then with the opportunity comes the risk: losing money.

No one loses money by buying a ticket to a game they go to. Though some games have sucked so much I have wanted my money back!:laugh:
 

Made Dan

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What a mook this guy is.

Scalpers lost a ton of money trying to speculate on tickets?

Hmm...GOOD!

Those people deserve what they get. Like stock market speculators. Produce nothing of value themselves but try to make a quick buck gaming the system and screwing the little guy. Those people deserve to get burned.

Meh. If people want to get tickets for face value they should bother to get up when they go on sale. It's not difficult.
 

Frank Drebin

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That guy was an idiot to borrow $300k to buy tickets. Like that was crazy stupid and a huge risk. Why would anyone do that?

Probably dumb house money, aka his house "appreciated" 300k since he bought it now the guy has $300k to gamble. Saw it lots with the housing boom in 06 and subsequent 08 crash, the easy money that came into the fools hands left it almost as easily.

No one who has had to work for $300k would ever treat it so carelessly.
 

DeGray

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Just think how low the prices would be if Canada somehow hadn't made it past the preliminary round or to the finals.

There were tickets available on StubHub for $6 to the Sweden vs. Europe semi-final game. :amazed:
 

Xokkeu

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Just like gambling at a casino or playing with the stock market: never do it with money you can't afford to lose.

That being said, I can't wrap my mind around why the common person would pay so much for just a couple games of this tournament in the first place. Bad investment all around, and the those ticket prices were delusional in the first place. This wasn't the Superbowl.

Dropping $300k of a loan against your house on one event is such rank stupidity that I doubt this guy does it for living.
 

Frank Drebin

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I remember living in Regina when they hosted the Grey Cup in 03, they had a team that looked like they could make it to the final, me and my buddies all bought tickets for ourselves for like $150 each before they got "too crazy", or sold out. Well the riders didn't make it and we tried getting rid of the tickets (we were more fans of the party then the game), needless to say the market wasn't too hot.

We ended up watching the Al's and Eskies battle it out in -27 beside a couple kids who bought the same tickets we paid $150 for for $5 outside the stadium. lel
 

NYRFAN218

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Yeah, I was offered strips for the WC back late last year and it was an easy pass once I saw the prices. Anyone that bought to re-sell those is a moron. They left absolutely no meat on the bone to make money off those tickets. It should have been obvious they were overpriced to start when season ticket holders of other teams around Canada and US were offered strips to buy.
 

ijuka

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Personally, I'm really happy if people who buy tickets in order to sell them lose money. I'd love it if they lost more than 50%. I really hate people who try to game the situation like that, no matter the situation. People who buy tickets for the sake of selling them only hurt people who are genuinely interested in the product.
 

LT

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I don't think this is going anywhere productive.

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