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Pick up Brandon Mashinter off of waivers.
Would love having that element on the 4th line!
Pick up Brandon Mashinter off of waivers.
Orpik obviously brings the grit to our top 4 D and Letang has a nasty part to his game as well as being a physical presence. Martin Lovejoy and Nisky all are soft but don't forget Engelland is back there. Despres has a big body too when he gets playing time. I feel our O is where we hurt in size and grit
It would be more of a luxury, but I'd love to see this team have a guy like Kevin Stevens (pre-Pilon hit) or Rick Tocchet skating with Crosby. Unfortunately there aren't too many guys in the league that can play with a star and knock someone out when they need to.
He would fix so many things just by himself.Ryane Clowe
I guess I'm in the minority but I think there's a good amount of grit in our forward group (and at least one guy on each line that can really bury people) but our defense is a little soft/small for my liking.
This.
I don't understand how people in one thread can constantly worry about the lack of skill on the wings, then turn around and say the wings aren't gritty enough. Even then, it's not like Neal and Kunitz are cupcakes... they have a good amount of strength / sandpaper to their game for guys who have some skill. Just because they're not Jarome Iginla out there, beating the crap out of someone in a fight, doesn't mean they lack grit overall. Dupuis is fine also in this capacity, so the only real question is Tangradi / whoever steps onto line 2.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Short of guys like Iginla and Steve Ott (and Ott's a stretch), there aren't a whole lot of players out there who are "skilled enough" to not look stupid on a scoring line, and who are also "gritty enough" for the typical Pittsburgh mindset (i.e. someone who can literally bang bodies and throw punches with good effect). I think our group up front is pretty damn good. More worried about what's going to happen on D (and hoping Elmer is part of the answer as he can be a big, mean SOB when he wants to), and maybe Bortuzzo. Still, that's swapping one problem (soff) for another (inexperience).
That's hockey in teh Cap era. You're going to have weaknesses / question marks.
I don't think most of us are worried about our top 6 size/toughness. It's the bottom 6 that is questionable at best.
Suter: Not physical
Cooke: Neutered
Kennedy: Too small to make an impact
Vitale: Decent, but on the small side
Adams: Aside from the PK is absolutely worthless
Glass: The only one that fits the bottom 6 mold, but certainly not a feared hitter or fighter.
Jeffrey: Not physical at all.
I actually think Suter has some grits to his gravy. He gets on loose pucks, will take the body and plays up tempo all the time. Kind of like Armstrong.I don't think most of us are worried about our top 6 size/toughness. It's the bottom 6 that is questionable at best.
Suter: Not physical
Cooke: Neutered
Kennedy: Too small to make an impact
Vitale: Decent, but on the small side
Adams: Aside from the PK is absolutely worthless
Glass: The only one that fits the bottom 6 mold, but certainly not a feared hitter or fighter.
Jeffrey: Not physical at all.
I guess I'm in the minority but I think there's a good amount of grit in our forward group (and at least one guy on each line that can really bury people) but our defense is a little soft/small for my liking.
This.
I don't understand how people in one thread can constantly worry about the lack of skill on the wings, then turn around and say the wings aren't gritty enough. Even then, it's not like Neal and Kunitz are cupcakes... they have a good amount of strength / sandpaper to their game for guys who have some skill. Just because they're not Jarome Iginla out there, beating the crap out of someone in a fight, doesn't mean they lack grit overall. Dupuis is fine also in this capacity, so the only real question is Tangradi / whoever steps onto line 2.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Short of guys like Iginla and Steve Ott (and Ott's a stretch), there aren't a whole lot of players out there who are "skilled enough" to not look stupid on a scoring line, and who are also "gritty enough" for the typical Pittsburgh mindset (i.e. someone who can literally bang bodies and throw punches with good effect). I think our group up front is pretty damn good. More worried about what's going to happen on D (and hoping Elmer is part of the answer as he can be a big, mean SOB when he wants to), and maybe Bortuzzo. Still, that's swapping one problem (soff) for another (inexperience).
That's hockey in teh Cap era. You're going to have weaknesses / question marks.
I actually think Suter has some grits to his gravy. He gets on loose pucks, will take the body and plays up tempo all the time. Kind of like Armstrong.
This is where Tangradi can get his spot on the team. The Pens need size and someone willing to use it. I'm hoping he can be a richard and make a statement this year. I often wonder what direction the Pens give a player like Tangradi??? I remember a few years ago he got in a fight in camp and someone on the Pens said that they don't want him fighting in camp because he might hurt his hand. As a Pens fan thats the last thing I want to hear. We're talking about Eric Tangradi here not Hakan Loob. Go burn your bra on the tennis courts with that garbage.
As opposed to what? His blah play every year when called up. Make them notice you, stand out, ask Disco to get in against the Isles then butt end Nino in the temple, make a youtube vid of yourself pissing fire... do something but be a net front statue.Yes because breaking your hand in a fight in training camp makes so much sense.
As opposed to what? His blah play every year when called up. Make them notice you, stand out, ask Disco to get in against the Isles then butt end Nino in the temple, make a youtube vid of yourself pissing fire... do something but be a net front statue.
I like what Tangradi brings to the table but jeez at least show up hungry.
I'm not a Tangradi fan really. I think he could turn into a top 6 warm body, but that's about it. Not a bad player but nothing that couldn't be traded at a moment's notice. That being said fighting to get noticed is beneath him. That's for guys that play a checking role and guys that were drafted low/not at all. He's on the team's radar, there's no need for that.
To be honest those are those only times I've really noticed him.As I type this, someone just selected Tangradi in my fantasy draft.
He fought last year to try to stick. There's no other reason he'd fight Gudbranson and Bickel.
Yeah... if he could get 15G 15A and play cobra mean like David Backes I would be one happy camper.Imagine a MEAN Tangradi...He'd be like Joe Vitale on steroids.
Yeah... if he could get 15G 15A and play cobra mean like David Backes I would be one happy camper.
I'm a huge Backes fan. IMO he's right up there with Sid, Malkin, Dats and Quick as the hardest players to play against. Those other guys are really skilled but Backes is big, viper mean and 2 way smart. Players can learn something by watching him.Better comparison there. If he played like Backes/Iginla/Benn...he'd be amazing. Hit, have an edge, score some, and have a few fights.