Player Discussion Thomas Chabot (D) Part 2

[Wondercarrot]

I know but its not possible

Sorry I don’t understand, why is it not possible?

 

[Alex1234]

Sorry I don’t understand, why is it not possible?

50 points per 82 games gets you 25-30th in the league not top 20 constantly

 

[Wondercarrot]

50 points per 82 games gets you 25-30th in the league not top 20 constantly

It quite literally puts him in the top 20 every single season he’s been in the league with the exception of his rookie year.(where he had 25pts in 63 games. )

Feel free to have a look for yourself.
He was 10th one year then 17,18,19, 20 every other year. I may be wrong but pretty sure he never finished lower than 20.

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[BondraTime]

It quite literally puts him in the top 20 every single season he’s been in the league with the exception of his rookie year.(where he had 25pts in 63 games. )

Feel free to have a look for yourself.
He was 10th one year then 17,18,19, 20 every other year. I may be wrong but pretty sure he never finished lower than 20.

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You'd need to use ppg for every other D in that case

 

[Alex1234]

It quite literally puts him in the top 20 every single season he’s been in the league with the exception of his rookie year.(where he had 25pts in 63 games. )

Feel free to have a look for yourself.
He was 10th one year then 17,18,19, 20 every other year. I may be wrong but pretty sure he never finished lower than 20.

NHL Defensemen Scoring Leaders 2023-2024

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Nahhh
See post #500

You cannot take Chabot production per 82 games and not take into account the production of the other defencemen of the league per 82 games
Do the math correctly you will see it quite literally puts him in the 25-30 range
Not top 20 every single season as posted earlier

 

[redbrick98]

It quite literally puts him in the top 20 every single season he’s been in the league with the exception of his rookie year.(where he had 25pts in 63 games. )

Feel free to have a look for yourself.
He was 10th one year then 17,18,19, 20 every other year. I may be wrong but pretty sure he never finished lower than 20.

NHL Defensemen Scoring Leaders 2023-2024

NHL defenseman scoring leaders and demographics breakdown in the 2023-2024 season. Defensemen stats, nationality and age distributions, draft rounds of defensemen in the 2023-2024 NHL season.

www.quanthockey.com

It doesn't matter what his PPG is if he's always injured

When you need him, Chabots in the press box , not on the ice

 

[Wondercarrot]

Nahhh
See post #500

You cannot take Chabot production per 82 games and not take into account the production of the other defencemen of the league per 82 games
Do the match correctly you will see it quite literally puts him in the 25-30 range
Not top 20 every single season as posted earlier

Ah, of course. Sorry gents!

 

[Alex1234]

It doesn't matter what his PPG is if he's always injured

When you need him, Chabots in the press box , not on the ice

His salary is top 20 though

 

[BondraTime]

His salary is top 20 though

For another few weeks

Hanfin, Seider, Hronek, Bouchard, Dobson, Theodore, Chychrun, L. Hughes, Faber , + few others

He's likely in the ~27-30 range in a years time, not that it makes any difference

 

[Alex1234]

For another few weeks

Hanfin, Seider, Hronek, Bouchard, Dobson, Theodore, Chychrun, L. Hughes, Faber , + few others

He's likely in the ~27-30 range in a years time, not that it makes any difference

Until some retirement like EK,Doughty,Burns, Pietrangelo
Projected 14th in salary (not cap) next year so far

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Not that it makes any difference yeah
Anyway, hope for him he gets healthier next couple of seasons

 

[mianjo]

I guess Chabot is back

2024-04-05

Tyler Kleven (D)

Belleville

ADD

Returned on loan from Ottawa (NHL)

 

[Senscore]

I guess Chabot is back

2024-04-05

Tyler Kleven (D)

Belleville

ADD

Returned on loan from Ottawa (NHL)

Should have sent down Kubaleven instead.

 

[Icelevel]

Really liked his interview from today.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I've never seen his photo. He looks just like his dad. Hope he sticks up here next year.

 

[bert]

I guess Chabot is back

2024-04-05

Tyler Kleven (D)

Belleville

ADD

Returned on loan from Ottawa (NHL)

Send down the teams best d man from last game haha. Fan Appreciation. Awesome.... I'm going tonight this sucks. One of the only reasons I was interested in watching the game. Crookshank hurt too, just no hope. Get to watch the most overpaid cap team go through the motions. Lead by its most overpaid player back in the lineup.

 

[JD1]

How is he top 20 in the league last season with 50 pts per 82 games?

Chabot finished 10th in the league one year. Apart from that year, he's never finished top 20

 

[JD1]

For another few weeks

Hanfin, Seider, Hronek, Bouchard, Dobson, Theodore, Chychrun, L. Hughes, Faber , + few others

He's likely in the ~27-30 range in a years time, not that it makes any difference

It might make it a lot easier to move the contract. Currently his contract is T14 and imo he's not close to that. But two years of heavy cap increases and his play doesn't get worse and you're talking in the 30s somewhere and that's far more palatable

 

[Alex1234]

Tough game tonight

 

[Adrianopolous]

BENCH CHABOT

Hockey Stat Cards I don't even know what I am looking at here but assuming the that higher the Season Avg score is the better this doesn't really colour Chabot in the best light. Not that I care about these stats - Chabot is our best player and is amazing so this entire thread is awful.

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Golden_Jet]

BENCH CHABOT

Hockey Stat Cards I don't even know what I am looking at here but assuming the that higher the Season Avg score is the better this doesn't really colour Chabot in the best light. Not that I care about these stats - Chabot is our best player and is amazing so this entire thread is awful.

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oof lol

 

[bert]

JM speaking truth about Chabot and frankly it's refreshing to hear. It's obvious he hasn't been working in the offseason. That's why he's always hurt and his compete level isn't NHL night in night out.

'Needs to have a big summer. Needs to improve his strength. Has to improve defenisvely.'

Atleast we are finally hearing someone state the obvious. This to me means he maybe salvageable. If he was just soft like Chychrun it would be worse. If he starts to take his career seriously he can probably still be a positive contributer.

 

[JD1]

JM speaking truth about Chabot and frankly it's refreshing to hear. It's obvious he hasn't been working in the offseason. That's why he's always hurt and his compete level isn't NHL night in night out.

'Needs to have a big summer. Needs to improve his strength. Has to improve defenisvely.'

Atleast we are finally hearing someone state the obvious. This to me means he maybe salvageable. If he was just soft like Chychrun it would be worse. If he starts to take his career seriously he can probably still be a positive contributer.

I'm not surprised that's the case but I am surprised he said it.

Imo JM talking about a lack of compete on multiple occasions was a reference to Chabot. I'm more than ready to move on but JM saying that publicly doesn't help the return

Didn't Chabot say something in the past week about guys having to look at their summer training differently?

 

[bert]

I'm not surprised that's the case but I am surprised he said it.

Imo JM talking about a lack of compete on multiple occasions was a reference to Chabot. I'm more than ready to move on but JM saying that publicly doesn't help the return

Didn't Chabot say something in the past week about guys having to look at their summer training differently?

I think it helps in every way possible. I don't think anyone used to say anything to him. Big wake up call. We all know he has the talent. That's why you don't move on from players too early. Especially when you're a bad team. Ottawa has to start managing it's assets better. This is when a strong organization shows it. Emotional reactionary decisions with no plan like Dorion used to make are not the way to build a winner as we have seen.

Look at Batherson he's playing the best hockey of his career. Patience and development. This thought process that players peak at 24 or whatever is laughable.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

JM speaking truth about Chabot and frankly it's refreshing to hear. It's obvious he hasn't been working in the offseason. That's why he's always hurt and his compete level isn't NHL night in night out.

'Needs to have a big summer. Needs to improve his strength. Has to improve defenisvely.'

Atleast we are finally hearing someone state the obvious. This to me means he maybe salvageable. If he was just soft like Chychrun it would be worse. If he starts to take his career seriously he can probably still be a positive contributer.

Agreed. He was allowed carte blanche out there for too long. Early in his career (rookie year mostly) he was a competitor. That was allowed to leak out of his game under DJ's country club atmosphere but it's probably still in there somewhere.

Chabot is the guy to keep over Chych.

 

[R2010]

Agreed. He was allowed carte blanche out there for too long. Early in his career (rookie year mostly) he was a competitor. That was allowed to leak out of his game under DJ's country club atmosphere but it's probably still in there somewhere.

Chabot is the guy to keep over Chych.

I mean isn't the lesson here that if you're a bad team maybe you shouldn't run your young #1 d-man into the ground instead of developing him properly.