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Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by James Ownz Harper*, Feb 7, 2006.

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  1. Can I get a list of the top 5 players? and what pos they are? All I really know are Kessel ( and he wont be on the levels of Ovechkin and Crosby it seems.) and Johnson.

    Also what are my chances of my Blackhawks getting a Kessel with the 2nd or 3rd pick it seems.
     
  2. Tb0ne

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    Depends on the list, but this is a major one.
    http://www.internationalscouting.com/
    1 E. Johnson USA Defense
    2 J. Toews UND Forward
    3 P. Kessel UMIN Forward
    4 J. Staal PET Forward
    5 P. Mueller EVE Forward
     
  3. Whoa, Kessel falling off bad.

    Hmmm the Hawks don't need anymore high D-men we need scoring.
     
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    Kessel is only falling off to some people. I still think he will go number one. He has too much ability. And everyone that has him falling is basing solely on the WJC. Which he did not play bad, but was very mis-used as was the whole team USA it seemed. His WCHA numbers are almost the same as Heatley's. And i bet he will make up the difference by seasons end.
     
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    kessel fell off due to a weak tournament

    sure, he got 11pts....but 5 of those were assists he got in the blowout against norway. take that easy game away and he doesnt look so great on paper.

    players have bad tournaments/games/stretches though, and to evaluate him as a whole on that one is dumb. i think he'll still be great and that top 4 (him, toews, johnson, backstrom) is a toss up
     
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    People seem to forget he had a hand in both points vs the Czechs. 1g 1a in a 2-1 game in the quarters. And through out Kessel's assists and it was a 6-2 game vs norway. And to the best of my knowledge others teams played Norway. Yet no one else "padded there stats" like Kessel did.
     
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    still, when assessing statistics, its safer to eliminate stats like that to get a better reading on his average
     
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    Kessel is exactly the type of prospect you don't look at the numbers when judging. Assess each and every area of his game.

    Skating: He's just a pure speed demon. He's very smooth bringing the puck up the ice and his agility is superb. He can go in any direction. Skating is one of his biggest assets. It leads to his offensive scoring chances, and helps his playmaking game. One area it needs to have a bigger effect on is his defensive game. I'd like to see him use that speed for both sides of the ice rather than just offensive.

    Passing: We saw in the WJC he is equally as good passing as he is scoring. His shiftiness on his skates makes him be able to swing any body position and still set a teammate up beautifully. A negative is he is labeled selfish with the puck, which would mask any playmaking ability.

    Shooting: I'd say he's a scorer. His wrister is very good, one of his sweetest options. It seems as though he has that innate ability to just get the puck in the net.

    Strength: He's light and frail. That hasn't stopped some other players, but I don't think he has the mental makeup to compensate for his weak stature. Someone like a Prucha will battle to the death, but I don't see that pitbull in Kessel. He can be easily contained.

    In all, Kessel is a one dimensional, however sensational offensive talent. All of the descriptions of him that I wrote describe a first overall selection. However, something just gives me a terrible feeling about him. The opposition's ability in the WJC to expose his one on one move gives me the heebie jeebies. Could it be a suspect work ethic and lack of desire? Immaturity?

    He could either blow up into a star or fizzle and get shut out by NHL defenders. IMO I look at Backstrom over Kessel.
     
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    I wouldn't pass up on Erik Johnson right now if i had the first pick. His potential is just ridiculous, and to me, his skating ability and puck control just screams franchise defenseman.
     
  10. So....we shouldn't expect AO or SC numbers his rookie season? Hmmm okay but the Hawks don't need anymore D-men.
     
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    After hearing the comments made that Jordon Staal could be the best of the 3 brothers, and what Eric and Marc have done so far, I have to take a hard look at him if I'm building a team for offense.
     
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    Kessel is one dimensional in the way a Bure, Kovalev, or Kovalchuk is one-dimensional. Very skilled offensive players who tend to be marginal defensive players. I'm not saying Kessel will have the same impact as those players, but the skill level and production is undeniable. You can talk potential all you want (although I struggle with the attempts to place Backstrom's potential ahead of Kessel's), but in the end you have to look at the points on the board, and that's what Kessel does, put up the points.
     
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    I don't know . . . put him on Crosby or Malkin's wing and the kid could do alright I would think.
     
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    Hmm... haven't really heard that Jordan could be the best. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Jared Staal, the youger brother of Eric, Marc, and Jordan? I like Jordan Staal, but I'd be shocked if he ended up being better than Eric.
     
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    What you're saying equates to hype. You don't want to receognize Backstrom's skill level and production in the SEL, but gush over Kessel's on the collegiate level. Its a common double standard to not take a late riser seriously over someone who has been publicized for a longer time.

    What is Backstrom doing right now? He's put up the points in an extremely competitive league. I guess you're thinking being this advanced right now and actually producing lessens his potential? IMO this refined, confident player like Backstrom raises the bar and now has an even higher potential. We've seen his early adjustment to mens league play, and can somewhat expect him to be able to do that in the NHL. His quick adaptation to SEL at 18 makes me think he can step into the NHL soon and be a dominant player in a few years. Whereas Kessel could fall completely off the NHL map. IMO Backstrom's got it all. Offensive dangle, shot, patience, defensive awareness, skating, grit, decent height(ie won't be advantageous but won't be hindered), solid frame, hockey sense.

    Backstrom
    Johnson
    Kessel
    Staal
    Mueller
     
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    I'm not downplaying Backstrom's accomplishments, I just don't see him being better than Kessel. Personal preference. I definately don't see his potential being greater than Erik Johnson.
     
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    Me neither though he strikes me as the kind of player that ultimately will be better than both.
     
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    Please explain. I'm just not sure how he projects better than Kessel let alone Erik Johnson.
     
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    1. Erik Johnson (D)
    2. Phil Kessel (F)
    3. Jonathan Toewes (F)
    4. Peter Mueller (F)
    5. Jordan Staal/Michal Frolik (both F)

    That's how I'd call the order. So, if I'm right (big if), it would seem that the Hawks would have to keep sucking big-time to have a chance at Kessel.

    It's not so much that I'm high on Frolik, by the way. It's just that the Hockey News has him ranked second behind Kessel, and I've been working my way through their prospects issue. So my mind is infected.... :teach:
     
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