Line Combos: The "Power Play"

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Good post from the GDT yesterday

The Habs PP hasn’t been good since the days of Markov-Souray-Kovalev.

It wasn’t even good during the Markov-Subban days.

 

[salbutera]

What would you like to see on the power play? Things need to change I can't take it anymore!!

0 - 5 on 4 goals
1 - 4 on 3 in OT

4.8% 2nd last.

But it's only 7gp!

13.4% last year. Better but still 2nd last.

HuGo acquiring a PP QB - until then no game planning will magically improve it

 

[morhilane]

thx

how is it calculated ?

It's like the total grading of a player shot attempts for the likelihood of them resulting into a goal. It use tables with values for various things and it's not a standard model (different place use different ones). Moneypuck explain theirs: MoneyPuck.com -About and How it Works

 

[Skip Bayless]

Dach, Suzuki, and Matheson on the first unit can do zone entries. (then you have Caufield and RHP).

On the 2nd unit, one of Guhle or Mailloux, plus Newhook. Then you have Monahan, Slaf, and Anbderson or Ylonen.

1) We need to win the initial PP faceoff; Monahan will help a lot.

2) The drop pass from hell creates 0% deception because the player that drops it doesn't break the trap. The opponent doesn't back off and our carrier has to stickhandle through 3-4 guys in order to enter the zone. The breakout that starts the sequence is very non-chalant and disorganized. It's not the drop pass that is supposed to create the chaos, it's the guy who skates it up the ice first that has to create it.

 

[knuck]

It's like the total grading of a player shot attempts for the likelihood of them resulting into a goal. It use tables with values for various things and it's not a standard model (different place use different ones). Moneypuck explain theirs: MoneyPuck.com -About and How it Works

interesting stuff
thanks

 

[26Mats]

1) We need to win the initial PP faceoff; Monahan will help a lot.

2) The drop pass from hell creates 0% deception because the player that drops it doesn't break the trap. The opponent doesn't back off and our carrier has to stickhandle through 3-4 guys in order to enter the zone. The breakout that starts the sequence is very non-chalant and disorganized. It's not the drop pass that is supposed to create the chaos, it's the guy who skates it up the ice first that has to create it.

I'm liking the personnel this year. Do we have McDavid and Draisaitl or Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares? No. But that only means we won't be top 2. Suzuki, Cole, Dach, and Matheson are good pp players - and so is RHP in the slot/bumper.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I'm liking the personnel this year. Do we have McDavid and Draisaitl or Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares? No. But that only means we won't be top 2. Suzuki, Cole, Dach, and Matheson are good pp players - and so is RHP in the slot/bumper.

Newhook is going to be a great bumper too.

There is no reason to look incompetent on the PP this season. It's one of the things that I really expect the team to start improving on starting this year.

 

[WeThreeKings]

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I don’t think we have to overreact to much from tonight, but the PP is genuinely concerning. Think we need Matheson back badly.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Should we change up the pp ? It's not working.

Burrows, MSL, Hughes, Gorton

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I don’t think we have to overreact to much from tonight, but the PP is genuinely concerning. Think we need Matheson back badly.

We will tank for another season I guess.

 

[tinyzombies]

Preseason roster- of course the powerplay isn't going to work. That's not a realistic gripe.

 

[Toene]

Preseason roster- of course the powerplay isn't going to work. That's not a realistic gripe.

Tonight was the 1st unit we'll ice during the season except for Norlinder. They barely managed to shoot on net. We can be critical of the strategic aspects even if not all elements are present.

 

[tinyzombies]

Tonight was the 1st unit we'll ice during the season except for Norlinder. They barely managed to shoot on net. We can be critical of the strategic aspects even if not all elements are present.

There's plenty of other stuff to be upset about tbh lol. They aren't going to whip out their best stuff for a preseason game.

 

[Toene]

There's plenty of other stuff to be upset about tbh lol. They aren't going to whip out their best stuff for a preseason game.

Why not? The PP was ass last season, they should try to get it to click as early as possible. It's one of the top priorities.

 

[tinyzombies]

Why not? The PP was ass last season, they should try to get it to click as early as possible. It's one of the top priorities.

There were also tons of players at camp, have they even spent much time on it yet?

 

[Naslundforever]

Pp needs 5 talented players. Habs cream of crop are… 2 players. And even they are paid for potential over accomplishment. Super mid. Kovalev would still make this pp1 and look like a player from a different league I bet. Hopefully some of the ahl prospects have crazy development curves.

 

[tinyzombies]

Pp needs 5 talented players. Habs cream of crop are… 2 players. And even they are paid for potential over accomplishment. Super mid. Kovalev would still make this pp1 and look like a player from a different league I bet. Hopefully some of the ahl prospects have crazy development curves.

Dach is getting there. That's 3. Moneyhands can play PP1, that's 4. And... that's it. We have no quarterback, that's the real problem.

 

[Naslundforever]

Tonight was the 1st unit we'll ice during the season except for Norlinder. They barely managed to shoot on net. We can be critical of the strategic aspects even if not all elements are present.

It’s frustrating. Pp is literally how you make the playoffs. Coaches and players both should be ashamed, they almost sound like victims talking about the pp in montreal for like a decade.

 

[Naslundforever]

Dach is getting there. That's 3. Moneyhands can play PP1, that's 4. And... that's it. We have no quarterback, that's the real problem.

Sure, but even with Hutson, Engstrom and all maxing out eventually this is a clear throwaway season again. Pp is supposed to be the bit that takes us out of our seats during the regular season, not facepalm.

 

[Rapala]

The puck moves too f***ing slow and no quarterback is going to help that. The problem is very few players can actually pass the puck.

 

[tinyzombies]

Sure, but even with Hutson, Engstrom and all maxing out eventually this is a clear throwaway season again. Pp is supposed to be the bit that takes us out of our seats during the regular season, not facepalm.

We aren't going anywhere until we get at least two qb's... Matheson isn't a playmaker, Guhle has a bit of that in his game. And after that it's Barron, Mailloux, Hutson, Engstrom maybe... none of those guys are particularly close to sniffing top 4 minutes yet. They might GET top 4 minutes, but... I guess Suzuki is a defacto qb. Dach will have to be one too. Need at least one more tho...Farrell is a long way to never off. Don't really have any playmakers in the system either. Not sure why they sent Roy down.

 

[Hacketts]

The puck moves too f***ing slow and no quarterback is going to help that. The problem is very few players can actually pass the puck.

Already miss Drouin?

 

[tinyzombies]

Sure, but even with Hutson, Engstrom and all maxing out eventually this is a clear throwaway season again. Pp is supposed to be the bit that takes us out of our seats during the regular season, not facepalm.

I know a guy, he's only 44:

 

[Destopcorner]

I know a guy, he's only 44:

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Sign him for 10 games and make him coach something. General knew all the tricks without being a great skater... it's all about deception and anticipation.