The once-new "what's going on with Panarin" thread

[major major]

Would CBJ sign both Bob and Bread for lets say 6 years and $120m combined cap over these six years? or 20m a year for example 12/8.

If it's a package deal, I'd say they would. $20m per is the maximum they could do, but if it's just a 6 year term it's much less risky. It's a bit optimistic to think the players will accept 6 year deals as opposed to 8.

 

[Old Guy]

I’ve got this theory that 10 % of you cap space is all that should be allocated to your goalie tandem. More than that you are asking for trouble.

 

[Jovavic]

I’ve got this theory that 10 % of you cap space is all that should be allocated to your goalie tandem. More than that you are asking for trouble.

I would go even lower than that, pretty soon 10% is going to be 8 milion dollars

 

[mikeyp24]

The only reason I agree goalie capspace should be lower then 10% is because of return. For a goalscorer you can at least get your monies worth in a return meanwhile a goalie you are likely going to have to eat cap and take a huge loss in assets then what hes worth.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Nick Kyprios just said that Panarin does not want to be traded, but doesn't want to sign before the off-season.

 

[GoJackets1]

Nick Kyprios just said that Panarin does not want to be traded, but doesn't want to sign before the off-season.

I’m generally someone that thinks Bread will sign here (call me crazy if you like) but if this is true, all I take this as is that he doesn’t want to be traded to a non-playoff team.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I’m generally someone that thinks Bread will sign here (call me crazy if you like) but if this is true, all I take this as is that he doesn’t want to be traded to a non-playoff team.

You're crazy.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Nick Kyprios just said that Panarin does not want to be traded, but doesn't want to sign before the off-season.

He's going to have to pick anyway. Ball is in his corner.

 

[SuperGenius]

Nick Kyprios just said that Panarin does not want to be traded, but doesn't want to sign before the off-season.

Did he say this out of his ass like most of what he says?

Unless there's more context to this, I'd be pretty surprised if he had any kind of 'scoop' on this - he's interjecting his summary of what's on the record and what he 'thinks' is going on.

 

[SuperGenius]

As I suspected, this guy is just talking to move the air in front of his head.

 

[DJA]

Kypreos knows nothing. He's still repeating stuff that was being discussed about 6 months ago.

 

[major major]

Artemi/Milstein said all of that months ago, that he doesn't want to talk contract or trades with anyone during the season.

 

[CharlotteJacket]

There's a reason Panarin/Milstein have had a change of heart and want to sit down with the CBJ at the All Star break. Now the meeting may be nothing more than a courtesy to the Blue Jackets and Milstein will just repeat what he's said before. But to me, this is a make or break meeting for Jarmo. If he doesn't get an extension signed with Panarin, or at least the outline of a new contract, then he has to be traded before the deadline whether Panarin likes it or not. Same with Bob.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

There's a reason Panarin/Milstein have had a change of heart and want to sit down with the CBJ at the All Star break. Now the meeting may be nothing more than a courtesy to the Blue Jackets and Milstein will just repeat what he's said before. But to me, this is a make or break meeting for Jarmo. If he doesn't get an extension signed with Panarin, or at least the outline of a new contract, then he has to be traded before the deadline whether Panarin likes it or not. Same with Bob.

Agreed. It's "do (or at least get very close to doing it) or die" time regarding the contracts. The next meeting with Panarin's agent should either result in a signing or create significant enough traction to indicate that a deal is in the offing.

 

[blahblah]

If the Panarin camp is looking to go to FA, his value will drop dramatically at the deadline. As far as the Rangers, it seems like Panarin wants to get past the first round of the playoffs.

 

[Madifer]

Bread is directly responsible for a few turnovers that had lead to goals against during these past few games. He is also been quite slow.

I wonder whats going on with him. Maybe its his girlfriend who makes him crazy and overdrains his physical resources.

 

[SuperGenius]

If the Panarin camp is looking to go to FA, his value will drop dramatically at the deadline. As far as the Rangers, it seems like Panarin wants to get past the first round of the playoffs.

In 2022?

Bread is directly responsible for a few turnovers that had lead to goals against during these past few games. He is also been quite slow.

I wonder whats going on with him. Maybe its his girlfriend who makes him crazy and overdrains his physical resources.

A better guess would be that it has something to do with the injury he's trying to play through.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Portzline in his Q&A today.

Q:

Is it insane to have growing hope that Bread signs with the Jackets prior to the deadline? Have the feeling Bob is gone, but may go “all-in” on a run this year (assuming #9 is back) and fingers crossed Merzlikins is a successful NHL net-minder? Merzlinkins is the consensus #1 player in Latvia after all......

A (from Portzline):

Not sure it meets the definition of 'insane,' no. But it's a touch crazy. If he doesn't sign with them before Feb. 25, I think Panarin is gone. I think he has to be gone. I think they're keeping Bob through the deadline and the playoffs and worry about him in the off-season, but Panarin will be death with by the trade deadline. They'll come out of the meeting in late January with a clear sign if he's willing to sign with them. If he's not, they have to trade him. They can't do the gentleman's agreement thing. They can't do the "hope he changes his mind" stuff like the Islanders did with Tavares. There are some who believe Panarin will or has changed his mind and would consider Columbus now, but until that comes from Bread or Milstein, it would be reckless to believe it. Strap in. Gonna be a while six weeks.

Live Blue Jackets Q&A with Aaron Portzline at 1 p.m.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

No explanation why he thinks "they have to trade him," if there's no clear indication he'll sign.

 

[Monk]

No explanation why he thinks "they have to trade him," if there's no clear indication he'll sign.

It's a poopy quote in general. It seems to imply Panarin/his agent have said he won't consider Columbus, even though I don't think that's actually happened.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

It's a poopy quote in general. It seems to imply Panarin/his agent have said he won't consider Columbus, even though I don't think that's actually happened.

I just hasn't not happened. Which we all know. Ostensibly, Portzline has information the average fan is not privy to, and makes his conjectures based on that. But there's nothing offered that suggests anythign he says in this response is based on such information.

 

[major major]

I'd need an explanation of why the Jackets wouldn't do an "own-rental" with Panarin. Which club needs him this Spring more than the Jackets do?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I'd need an explanation of why the Jackets wouldn't do an "own-rental" with Panarin. Which club needs him this Spring more than the Jackets do?

No team needs him more, and no team has more to lose by losing him.

 

[EspenK]

When Panarin walks in free agency it will become apparent to all as to why he should have been traded. Especially after another 1st (or at best 2nd) round exit.

 

[Monk]

When Panarin walks in free agency it will become apparent to all as to why he should have been traded. Especially after another 1st (or at best 2nd) round exit.

You and Portzline know stuff I don't know, I feel left out.