The Official 2022 Baseball Hall of Fame Thread

[Elvis P]

1	y Curt Schilling	10th	70.0%	171	46	20	79.5	48.6	64.1	61.6	402	773	39	117	0	29	1	25	.151	.178	.171	.348	-9	216	146	3.46	127	1.137	569	436	22	3261.0	2998	347	711	3116	*1/H
2	y Roger Clemens	10th	61.0%	332	73	24	139.2	65.9	102.6	61.6	95	179	5	31	0	12	0	13	.173	.236	.207	.443	17	354	184	3.12	143	1.173	709	707	0	4916.2	4185	363	1580	4672	*1
3	y Barry Bonds	10th	60.7%	340	77	22	162.8	72.7	117.7	53.6	2986	9847	2227	2935	762	1996	514	2558	.298	.444	.607	1.051	182														*78HD/9
4	y Omar Vizquel	5th	52.6%	120	42	24	45.6	26.8	36.2	55.3	2968	10586	1445	2877	80	951	404	1028	.272	.336	.352	.688	82														*65H4/D379
5	y Scott Rolen	5th	35.3%	99	40	17	70.1	43.6	56.9	55.7	2038	7398	1211	2077	316	1287	118	899	.281	.364	.490	.855	122														*5/H
6	y Billy Wagner	7th	31.7%	107	24	16	27.7	19.8	23.7	32.6	810	20	1	2	0	1	0	1	.100	.143	.100	.243	-35	47	40	2.31	187	0.998	853	0	422	903.0	601	82	300	1196	*1
7	y Gary Sheffield	8th	30.5%	158	61	22	60.5	38.0	49.3	57.2	2576	9217	1636	2689	509	1676	253	1475	.292	.393	.514	.907	140														*9*7*5*D6H/3
8	y Todd Helton	4th	29.2%	175	59	17	61.8	46.6	54.2	54.8	2247	7962	1401	2519	369	1406	37	1335	.316	.414	.539	.953	133														*3H/7D9
9	y Manny Ramirez	6th	28.2%	226	69	19	69.3	39.9	54.6	53.6	2302	8244	1544	2574	555	1831	38	1329	.312	.411	.585	.996	154														*7*9*DH
10	y Jeff Kent	9th	27.5%	123	51	17	55.4	35.8	45.6	57.0	2298	8498	1320	2461	377	1518	94	801	.290	.356	.500	.855	123														*453H/D6
11	y Andruw Jones	5th	19.4%	109	34	17	62.7	46.4	54.6	58.0	2196	7599	1204	1933	434	1289	152	891	.254	.337	.486	.823	111														*89H7D/3
12	y Sammy Sosa	10th	13.9%	202	52	18	58.6	43.8	51.2	57.2	2354	8813	1475	2408	609	1667	234	929	.273	.344	.534	.878	128														*98DH/7
13	y Andy Pettitte	4th	11.3%	128	44	18	60.2	34.1	47.2	61.6	108	196	6	27	1	13	0	6	.138	.163	.184	.346	-10	256	153	3.85	117	1.351	531	521	0	3316.0	3448	288	1031	2448	*1/H
14	y Bobby Abreu	3rd	5.5%	95	54	18	60.2	41.6	50.9	57.2	2425	8480	1453	2470	288	1363	400	1476	.291	.395	.475	.870	128														*9DH7/8
15	y Alex Rodriguez	1st		390	77	22	117.5	64.3	90.9	55.3	2784	10566	2021	3115	696	2086	329	1338	.295	.380	.550	.930	140														*6*5DH/3
16	y Tim Hudson	2nd		66	42	17	57.9	38.3	48.1	61.6	297	613	35	98	4	42	0	26	.160	.196	.214	.410	10	222	133	3.49	120	1.239	482	479	0	3126.2	2957	248	917	2080	*1/HD
17	y Mark Buehrle	2nd		52	31	16	59.1	35.8	47.4	61.6	55	125	4	9	1	3	0	2	.072	.087	.112	.199	-47	214	160	3.81	117	1.281	518	493	0	3283.1	3472	361	734	1870	*1
18	y David Ortiz	1st		171	55	20	55.3	35.2	45.3	54.8	2408	8640	1419	2472	541	1768	17	1319	.286	.380	.552	.931	141														*D3H
19	y Mark Teixeira	1st		109	33	14	50.6	38.0	44.3	54.8	1862	6936	1099	1862	409	1298	26	918	.268	.360	.509	.869	126														*3D/H957
20	y Torii Hunter	2nd		58	34	19	50.7	30.8	40.7	58.0	2372	8857	1296	2452	353	1391	195	661	.277	.331	.461	.793	110														*8*9DH/7
21	y Jimmy Rollins	1st		121	42	17	47.6	32.7	40.1	55.3	2275	9294	1421	2455	231	936	470	813	.264	.324	.418	.743	95														*6H/D4
22	y Carl Crawford	1st		53	22	15	39.1	32.3	35.7	53.6	1716	6655	998	1931	136	766	480	377	.290	.330	.435	.765	105														*7H8D
23	y Jake Peavy	1st		56	27	15	39.2	30.7	35.0	61.6	278	519	48	87	3	33	0	22	.168	.205	.222	.427	17	152	126	3.63	110	1.196	388	377	0	2377.0	2134	259	708	2207	*1/H
24	y Dan Haren	2nd		30	26	13	35.1	33.2	34.1	61.6	218	414	31	83	2	39	0	17	.200	.233	.278	.511	36	153	131	3.75	109	1.181	391	380	1	2419.2	2357	305	500	2013	*1/H
25	y Barry Zito	2nd

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Who should get in the HoF?

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[Voight]

A-Rod should be a lock.

 

[Terry Yake]

bonds, clemens, a-rod, ortiz, rolen, kent

 

[EpochLink]

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemons will get sympathy votes since it’s their final year of eligibility.

A-Rod I think will suffer the same fate as those two as he was on the juice.

Ortiz will be interesting, depends on how the voters view him with his past failed drug test.

Rolen will get more votes, same with Kent.

Schilling will probably get in

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Who SHOULD get in? Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, A-Rod, Rolen, Ortiz.

Who WILL get in? Maybe Ortiz.
Rolen is trending to get in in the next few years though, similar to Larry Walker, Tim Raines and Edgar Martinez.

 

[Voight]

Ortiz getting in first time around would be some what of a joke. It took Martinez, the best DH of all time, 9 years.

He'll probably get in at some point due to the Boston media endlessly pumping his tires but he should have to wait a while, he is FAR from a lock or first ballot player.

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemons will get sympathy votes since it’s their final year of eligibility.

A-Rod I think will suffer the same fate as those two as he was on the juice.

Ortiz will be interesting, depends on how the voters view him with his past failed drug test.

Rolen will get more votes, same with Kent.

Schilling will probably get in

They should hold Ortiz to the same standard there going to hold A-Rod to RE PEDs.

It'd be such a joke if Selig got in right away and A-Rod did not.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

f*** Curt Schilling

 

[EpochLink]

Ortiz getting in first time around would be some what of a joke. It took Martinez, the best DH of all time, 9 years.

He'll probably get in at some point due to the Boston media endlessly pumping his tires but he should have to wait a while, he is FAR from a lock or first ballot player.

That’s why I’m gonna blow my top if the baseball writers put Ortiz in the first try cause he sucked so much baseball writers ass that they’ll say ‘hey I liked him!’

 

[Elvis P]

No one got in last year. I hope someone gets in this year.

 

[jcs0218]

Bonds and Clemens have only been moving upwards by 1%-2% per year the last few years.

They are currently at 61.8% and 61.6%. They each have a lot of ground to make up in their final year of eligibility.

I could see both being left-off, and their Hall of Fame decision being made by the Eras Committee (Veterans Committee).

 

[jcs0218]

No one got in last year. I hope someone gets in this year.

As much as it may be disappointing to have a year with 0 inductees, this is better than what you see in hockey.

Hockey turns the Hall of Fame induction into a weekend-long event. Because of this, I think the voters feel like they need to induct 4-5 new members every year so that they are able to fill up an entire weekend.

By inducting 4-5 members every year, it has diluted the Hall of Fame, and has caused less than elite players to get inducted.

There are players in the Hockey Hall of Fame who I don't think were ever top 50 players in the league at any point during their career.

 

[SSF]

i'd be interested to see your list of HHOF players not in the top 50 at any point.

 

[Cas]

Even Tommy McCarthy and Jesse Haines peaked at #5 in their own leagues (which were not the only top-level pro league at the time - McCarthy in particular played in the 1890's American Association, which was somewhat inferior to the National League - think the WHA compared to the NHL).

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemons will get sympathy votes since it’s their final year of eligibility.

A-Rod I think will suffer the same fate as those two as he was on the juice.

Ortiz will be interesting, depends on how the voters view him with his past failed drug test.

Rolen will get more votes, same with Kent.

Schilling will probably get in

There's no evidence his failed drug test was even for PEDs. They tested for both legal and illegal supplements, including stuff you could walk into GNC and buy. They also never officially released any results such as what the players tested positive for.

And anyone claiming "But DH isnt a position" should be making sure Mariano Rivera gets removed from the hall. After all, relievers aren't real pitchers they only throw 60 innings a year

 

[EpochLink]

There's no evidence his failed drug test was even for PEDs. They tested for both legal and illegal supplements, including stuff you could walk into GNC and buy. They also never officially released any results such as what the players tested positive for.

And anyone claiming "But DH isnt a position" should be making sure Mariano Rivera gets removed from the hall. After all, relievers aren't real pitchers they only throw 60 innings a year

It was a crime it took Edgar Martinez his final year to get in the HOF.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Ortiz will get in sooner than Edgar just because of the fact he's basically a folkhero in Boston.

Love it or hate it Big Papi elevated his game when it came time for October baseball. Edgar had the unfortunate curse of playing with a Mariners team that wasted his and several others careers.

Not saying I agree with it but I can understand why it'll probably pan out like this

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Ortiz will get in sooner than Edgar just because of the fact he's basically a folkhero in Boston.

Love it or hate it Big Papi elevated his game when it came time for October baseball. Edgar had the unfortunate curse of playing with a Mariners team that wasted his and several others careers.

Not saying I agree with it but I can understand why it'll probably pan out like this

Let's be fair too, Ortiz was a slugger and he amassed historic totals.

17th all time in HR (541)
12th all time in doubles (632)
22nd all time in RBI (1,768)
26th all time in slugging (.552)
8th all time in extra base hits (1,192)

Like you mentioned he has ridiculous playoff numbers.

Career World Series stats (14 games)

.455/.576/.795
1.372 OPS
3 HR
14 RBI

 

[Blitzkrug]

Let's be fair too, Ortiz was a slugger and he amassed historic totals.

17th all time in HR (541)
12th all time in doubles (632)
22nd all time in RBI (1,768)
26th all time in slugging (.552)
8th all time in extra base hits (1,192)

Like you mentioned he has ridiculous playoff numbers.

Career World Series stats (14 games)

.455/.576/.795
1.372 OPS
3 HR
14 RBI

Yeah I'm not saying Ortiz isn't worthy by any stretch. Just pointing out how hypocritical the voters committee is.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Yeah I'm not saying Ortiz isn't worthy by any stretch. Just pointing out how hypocritical the voters committee is.

Oh, agreed. I usually use the fact that they don't penalize relievers as "not real pitchers" while penalizing a legitimate position that has existed for almost 50 years