The NHL teams missing on Shesterkin in the 2014 Draft was a massive collective miss

[TheBeard]

Yeah, but Rangers passed on Tom Brady 6 times.

 

[HolyGhost]

I also like how the OP jumps over the fact it took him 5 years to come over. Shit like that does factor into how a team drafts

and here is the draft

2014 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com

A sortable list of players drafted in the 2014 NHL Entry draft, including their career scoring after being drafted

www.hockeydb.com

A few teams found diamonds in the rough that year

for those who play down picks after the 3rd round?

Player with 250+games in the NHL

Jacob Middleton
Jake Evans
Ondrej Kase
Pierre Engvall
Victor Olofsson
Sammy Blais
Kevin Labanc
Oskar Lindblom
Gustav Forsling
Michael Bunting

Danton Heinen Viktor Arvidsson Devon Toews

 

[dgibb10]

Why don't teams just predict the future every time? are they stupid?

 

[ecemleafs]

I also like how the OP jumps over the fact it took him 5 years to come over. Shit like that does factor into how a team drafts

and here is the draft

2014 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com

A sortable list of players drafted in the 2014 NHL Entry draft, including their career scoring after being drafted

www.hockeydb.com

A few teams found diamonds in the rough that year

for those who play down picks after the 3rd round?

Player with 250+games in the NHL

Jacob Middleton
Jake Evans
Ondrej Kase
Pierre Engvall
Victor Olofsson
Sammy Blais
Kevin Labanc
Oskar Lindblom
Gustav Forsling
Michael Bunting

Danton Heinen Viktor Arvidsson Devon Toews

drafting a 17 or 18 year old goalie with the idea of that goalie needing to be NHL ready within 5 years is stupid. the only ones that you can realistically project that timeline are top 10 goalies and drafting a goalie top 10 isnt something id want to do. even the really hyped goalies that were taken in 2021, wallstedt and cossa havent contributed anything at the NHL level within 3 years of being drafted and nothing shows that they will be significant contributers in their 4th post draft season.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

I would have simply drafted Shesterkin. Are the NHL teams stupid?

 

[The Red Line]

I mean obviously, but you can say the same thing about almost every player ever who was drafted after the first round and had a good career. Nothing really insightful about this take whatsoever.

 

[Voight]

Lundqvist was in the 7th round. Sorokin, i believe in the third round. I feel like I can only think of Price and Brodeur for the great goalies drafted in the 1st round.

Vasilevskiy too.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I also like how the OP jumps over the fact it took him 5 years to come over. Shit like that does factor into how a team drafts

Not so much for a goaltender imo. Sub-23 year old goaltenders COMBINED for 58 NHL games played this season. 18 year old Zachary Benson played 71 games himself for comparison.

 

[Copenhagen91]

Love a good pointless hindsight thread

 

[WarriorofTime]

Love a good pointless hindsight thread

you're welcome

 

[Kingfan1967]

It’s become abundantly clear that the nhl needs to learn how to scout goalies better.

Forwards , many 18 year olds make the NHL , Defensemen it's the rare 18 year old that makes it , Goalie , has an 18 year old played in the NHL (other than emergency call up) and stayed?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Forwards , many 18 year olds make the NHL , Defensemen it's the rare 18 year old that makes it , Goalie , has an 18 year old played in the NHL (other than emergency call up) and stayed?

The last one was Dan Blackburn. Most famous recent(ish) one was Tom Barrasso. Based on his birthday, Fleury was not eligible but played quite a number of games in the season directly after he was drafted.

 

[Maple Leaf]

you're welcome

Et tu, Brute?

 

[Stickpucker]

So good should have gone 2oa

 

[josra33]

For every Shesterkin, there are 25 Daniil Chechelevs

 

[BluesyShoes]

Rangers have the best goalie coach in the league. Maybe whoever we took would've become Igor.

I know there's some holes to poke in this, but I feel there a lot of truth to this. Canucks also have a great coach in Ian Clark. He reportedly handpicks the goalies at the draft, too, and I'm sure he directs pro signings as well. The Canucks have a great record of getting a lot out of their goaltender draft picks and pro signings. Coaching and development is huge for goalies.

 

[Crease]

Goalies are like kickers and closers. Very hard to predict. Draft a bunch and hope one works out.

 

[Osakahaus]

NHL teams missed on Ilya Sorokin, Juuse Saros and Brayden Point too in 2014, i fail to see why OP is going this hard over Shesterkin.

He's good but don't act like there aren't late round picks who teams regret a ton. Speaking from experience, there's a lot of players who I wish the islanders drafted over who they did, especially in 2013 and 2014...
Taylor Cammarata anyone?

For every Shesterkin, there are 25 Daniil Chechelevs

For every Ilya Sorokin, there are 10 Linus Soderstrom's and Mikko Koskinens.

 

[blue425]

To not give Benoit Allaire a lions share of credit ignores what we have seen from MULTIPLE goalies.

Nope. All luck.
To say we've been spoiled with goaltenders is a massive understatement.

 

[kaiser matias]

The last one was Dan Blackburn. Most famous recent(ish) one was Tom Barrasso. Based on his birthday, Fleury was not eligible but played quite a number of games in the season directly after he was drafted.

Fleury would have likely stayed up longer but he had a games-played bonus (at 25 games) and the Penguins did not want to/could not afford to pay that, so he was sent to the World Juniors and then back to the QMJHL after playing 21 games.

 

[Mike C]

That’s why you hire scouts.

And fire them

 

[HFBS]

As far as Henrik Lundvist goes, the Rangers took him as their last pick that year, and almost forgot they wanted to take him. It would have been much more impressive if they took him as their first pick, and everyone rolled their eyes and fell about laughing not knowing who he was.

Not just in hockey, but it never ceases to amaze me how everyone's an expert after the fact.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

So good should have gone 2oa

This ignores one of the fundamental rules of succeeding in the draft (aside from hindsight bias).

If you have perfect knowledge and know that no one else is going to take Shesterkin until (at minimum) the fourth round, then taking him second overall is terrible draft management. Take someone higher rated second overall, then get Shesterkin where you ultimately did.

 

[TheBeard]

The first organization to discover time travel is gonna have a real leg up on the rest of the league.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This ignores one of the fundamental rules of succeeding in the draft (aside from hindsight bias).

If you have perfect knowledge and know that no one else is going to take Shesterkin until (at minimum) the fourth round, then taking him second overall is terrible draft management. Take someone higher rated second overall, then get Shesterkin where you ultimately did.

This is not a Rangers comment since they took another goalie in the second round, but if you think he's 2nd round good but will be there in the 4th round, do you take him in the second or fourth if he's still available? I always wonder this, especially with a guy like Tom Brady.