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[s7ark]

Preseason is nearing. Is Chia done or does he have anything up his sleeve?

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[LTIR]

Didn't Chia say that Larsson is a #1 for Oilers right now but eventually be a #2.. Is he expecting Nurse to be the eventual #1 or is he adding a #1 shortly?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'd be a tad bit disappointed if we don't at least bring Gryba back. Unless his demands are too high, sign him to a 1 year deal at $800-$925K.

 

[Paralyzer]

Didn't Chia say that Larsson is a #1 for Oilers right now but eventually be a #2.. Is he expecting Nurse to be the eventual #1 or is he adding a #1 shortly?

 

[McWeber]

Didn't Chia say that Larsson is a #1 for Oilers right now but eventually be a #2.. Is he expecting Nurse to be the eventual #1 or is he adding a #1 shortly?

There is also that Klefbom guy that he said will be a top pairing D for years to come when he signed him to that contract. If Larsson is on the top pairing and number 2...

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Didn't Chia say that Larsson is a #1 for Oilers right now but eventually be a #2.. Is he expecting Nurse to be the eventual #1 or is he adding a #1 shortly?

When did Chia say this?

 

[bobbythebrain]

Didn't Chia say that Larsson is a #1 for Oilers right now but eventually be a #2.. Is he expecting Nurse to be the eventual #1 or is he adding a #1 shortly?

I think he meant it the other way around. I don't recall him ever saying is a #1, and referred to him as a #2 only to not oversell and make promises. In the end, I'm sure they hope he becomes the #1.

Chia is awesome that way. When we got Sekera he flat out said what he was to a tee. Same with Reinhart. He always called him a bottom pair who he hoped would work into a top 4


It's refreshing not having to hear these guys are Norris winners lol

 

[LTIR]

When did Chia say this?

"We’ve improved our team significantly,” said Chiarelli. “We’ve added what I assess as a top defenceman. He’s going to be a two at some point, Larsson. "

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=47081

 

[bobbythebrain]

"We’ve improved our team significantly,†said Chiarelli. “We’ve added what I assess as a top defenceman. He’s going to be a two at some point, Larsson. "

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=47081

IMO, the only other way to interpret this LTIR is if he meant Klefbom would be our #1. That super long contract should be a big indicator as to their judgement of him.

 

[Mr Positive]

"We’ve improved our team significantly,†said Chiarelli. “We’ve added what I assess as a top defenceman. He’s going to be a two at some point, Larsson. "

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=47081

hmmm....

I think he probably means that Klefbom is going to be a #1 some day. OR DAVIDSON

 

[48g90a138pts]

I'd be a tad bit disappointed if we don't at least bring Gryba back. Unless his demands are too high, sign him to a 1 year deal at $800-$925K.

I agree with you 100%. I can't see Eric asking to break the bank or anything. Oilers have tons of cap space, it's got to be Chiarelli is still working on something for another RHD.

Even if he his negotiating another trade still makes sense to bring him back even for depth. It's a no brainer, there will be injuries, and the Oilers RHD depth is sparse.
With Nurse and Oesterle being waiver exempt, no harm in them starting in the AHL. Bring up one of them if multiple injuries happen to the left d side. I'd also like to see what David Musil has built over the past year. We didn't get to see him at all in a Oilers uniform last season.

Gryba plays a tough style and makes me wonder why Chiarelli still hasn't signed him. If he has some PTO's to ponder won't take long for him to accept one and then we'll be looking for another RHD for depth.

 

[booyakasha]

So he traded a top 3 LW and one of the best 5v5 players in the league for a guy he thinks is a top pair Dman...and says he'll get there at some point?

How is that improving your team significantly?....if Larsson was already an established top 2 dman in his mind, than yes, I would buy into his assessment, but, he's even implying that the kid isn't there yet and hopes he gets there one day. odd statement actually.

 

[48g90a138pts]

So he traded a top 3 LW and one of the best 5v5 players in the league for a guy he thinks is a top pair Dman...and says he'll get there at some point?

How is that improving your team significantly?....if Larsson was already an established top 2 dman in his mind, than yes, I would buy into his assessment, but, he's even implying that the kid isn't there yet and hopes he gets there one day. odd statement actually.

It's a improvement because of the lack of RHD the Oilers have. This should have been addressed many years ago from management but wasn't. The team paid dearly for it too.

 

[bobbythebrain]

So he traded a top 3 LW and one of the best 5v5 players in the league for a guy he thinks is a top pair Dman...and says he'll get there at some point?

How is that improving your team significantly?....if Larsson was already an established top 2 dman in his mind, than yes, I would buy into his assessment, but, he's even implying that the kid isn't there yet and hopes he gets there one day. odd statement actually.

He called him a top dman in his mind. So that means a #2 minimum. His assesment means alot, seeing as he built a world class dcore once already

He also went on to say in those interviews the importance of lefty/righties. Something that is now becoming more evident with the rise of analytics

 

[booyakasha]

It's a improvement because of the lack of RHD the Oilers have. This should have been addressed many years ago from management but wasn't. The team paid dearly for it too.

relax, ...I question his statement.
at first he says Larsson's a top pair D, then goes on to say he "is going to be a 2 at some point"
thats a contradiction isn't it?

 

[booyakasha]

He called him a top dman in his mind. So that means a #2 minimum. His assesment means alot, seeing as he built a world class dcore once already

He also went on to say in those interviews the importance of lefty/righties. Something that is now becoming more evident with the rise of analytics

the importance of righties/leftiess is about position, not analytics.

 

[Mr Positive]

relax, ...I question his statement.
at first he says Larsson's a top pair D, then goes on to say he "is going to be a 2 at some point"
thats a contradiction isn't it?

#2 is still top pairing.

But anyway, I highly doubt Chia is bringing in another top pairing D any time soon. The biggest possible move would be to add a 2nd pairing PP guy

 

[Soli]

"We’ve improved our team significantly,” said Chiarelli. “We’ve added what I assess as a top defenceman. He’s going to be a two at some point, Larsson. "

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=47081

IMO, what Chia is saying is that Larsson is going to be a #2 defenseman, thus he's added what he assess as a top (pairing) defenseman. I don't think this comment is indicative of Chia's optimism in a particular blue liner becoming a #1.

 

[bobbythebrain]

the importance of righties/leftiess is about position, not analytics.

It's about analytics also. There is a stat/study that has shown it increases productivity by ?? % I can't remember the # but it does. Chia also made his comment based on this study I'm sure the way he phrased it. "What we know..." is what I think he said in 1 interview

 

[48g90a138pts]

relax, ...I question his statement.
at first he says Larsson's a top pair D, then goes on to say he "is going to be a 2 at some point"
thats a contradiction isn't it?

My over exuberance is purely directed at management for having a LHD depth of 12 players and a RHD depth of only 3. I don't count Andrew Ference because he's not playing anymore as far as we all know. 12 lefts 3 rights how did this get so far out of balance idk. Even a small trade swapping prospects would be a prudent thing...maybe.

 

[bobbythebrain]

My over exuberance is purely directed at management for having a LHD depth of 12 players and a RHD depth of only 3. I don't count Andrew Ference because he's not playing anymore as far as we all know. 12 lefts 3 rights how did this get so far out of balance idk. Even a small trade swapping prospects would be a prudent thing...maybe.

Please tell me you wanted to draft Ristolaienen also!

 

[booyakasha]

It's about analytics also. There is a stat/study that has shown it increases productivity by ?? % I can't remember the # but it does. Chia also made his csports omment based on this study I'm sure the way he phrased it. "What we know..." is what I think he said in 1 interview

you lost me, and I don't care.....
a few years ago Tyler Dellow proved analytically that the Oilers were a top team in the NHL...the %, and #'s he showed, helped his arguement...too bad real life disagreed with him.

 

[bobbythebrain]

you lost me, and I don't care.....
a few years ago Tyler Dellow proved analytically that the Oilers were a top team in the NHL...the %, and #'s he showed, helped his arguement...too bad real life disagreed with him.

We're not talking individual stats here. We are talking about an extensive study that shows how the puck moves productively with this combo.

Terrible argument. You may not care, but the hockey world does

 

[Blitzago*]

you lost me, and I don't care.....
a few years ago Tyler Dellow proved analytically that the Oilers were a top team in the NHL...the %, and #'s he showed, helped his arguement...too bad real life disagreed with him.

On average a D pairing of a L/R instead of a L/L or R/R have a 6% higher corsi I think was the stat.

 

[Arpeggio]

you lost me, and I don't care.....
a few years ago Tyler Dellow proved analytically that the Oilers were a top team in the NHL...the %, and #'s he showed, helped his arguement...too bad real life disagreed with him.

Don't recall this ever happening.