Charge_Seven
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I'm not surprised at all. That rollback the players took will drop now that they're getting some money back. Players' salaries stop for the playoffs, the owners gain all of that money and now have to fork some up. Further proves that the owners' irresponsibility was the main cause of the #1 cause lockout.
The problem with the old system was not that really mismanagement on the whole - it was (arguably) mismanagement by some of the owners and the huge disparity of revenues between teams that allowed some owners to overspend (bad management or just ego and not caring about making a profit) and that screwed over all the teams, even those that tried for sane fiscal management, by leading to an unsustainable escalation of salaries, which the players, their agents, and the NHLPA was perfectly happy to exploit.I didn't even think the owners denied that. It was quite clear that the problem was mismanagement. They may argue that the players forced the mismanagement in negotiations, but in the end only the owners/gms wrote the ridiculous cheques to the players.go kim johnsson 514 said:I'm not surprised at all. That rollback the players took will drop now that they're getting some money back. Players' salaries stop for the playoffs, the owners gain all of that money and now have to fork some up. Further proves that the owners' irresponsibility was the main cause of the #1 cause lockout.
The problem with the old system was not that really mismanagement on the whole - it was (arguably) mismanagement by some of the owners and the huge disparity of revenues between teams that allowed some owners to overspend (bad management or just ego and not caring about making a profit) and that screwed over all the teams, even those that tried for sane fiscal management, by leading to an unsustainable escalation of salaries, which the players, their agents, and the NHLPA was perfectly happy to exploit.
Don't argue that the league (or other teams) should have done something about it - they could not. It would be blatantly illegal and a violation of anti trust law for the league or the teams to act in concert to do anything that would have put a restraint on salaries. Bettman could not just tell the Rangers or Toronto or Detroit or <insert your favorite big-market whipping boy hers> to spend less. The only time the league and the teams could legally act together without collusion and anti-trust charges was during the CBA process - which they finally did.
That is why there was a lockout.
The problem with the old system was not that really mismanagement on the whole - it was (arguably) mismanagement by some of the owners and the huge disparity of revenues between teams that allowed some owners to overspend (bad management or just ego and not caring about making a profit) and that screwed over all the teams, even those that tried for sane fiscal management, by leading to an unsustainable escalation of salaries, which the players, their agents, and the NHLPA was perfectly happy to exploit.
Don't argue that the league (or other teams) should have done something about it - they could not. It would be blatantly illegal and a violation of anti trust law for the league or the teams to act in concert to do anything that would have put a restraint on salaries. Bettman could not just tell the Rangers or Toronto or Detroit or <insert your favorite big-market whipping boy hers> to spend less. The only time the league and the teams could legally act together without collusion and anti-trust charges was during the CBA process - which they finally did.
That is why there was a lockout.
I continue to hear that same argument: that the owners just can't control themselves, over and over, and I just don't understand. Do people not follow past events? Baseball attempted a unilateral movement as they suggest. The results were very clear. A handful of owners, especially one in NY took advantage of most of the rest of the league closing their wallets, and the players went to court and won a very one-siding ruling that said exactly what you just restate, it was an illegal act of collusion and cost them a lot of money. It must be done through a CBA process or it is illegal.
Players' salaries stop for the playoffs, the owners gain all of that money and now have to fork some up.
are you sure the playoff revenue counts into it? just thought id ask, because i have no clue.
Answer: yes. And before anyone else asks, revenue from preseason games is included as well.(i) HRR shall include the following non-exhaustive list of revenues:
(A) NHL Regular Season & Playoff Gate Receipts: All revenues received by a Club or a Club Affiliated Entity derived from the sale of NHL Regular Season and Playoff tickets, including, without limitation ... [from here it goes into other stuff not relevant to the question asked].
are you sure the playoff revenue counts into it? just thought id ask, because i have no clue.