Speculation: The coaching search continues

[Tnuoc Alucard]

This Travis Green shit is a joke right?

“Best in Class” right?

 

[mysens]

I think everyone needs a reality check here on who the hell would want to come to Ottawa to coach an NHL team. That's the bottom line. I am sure Staois and lets not forget Poulin, spoke to or interviewed a few candidates, but in the end, it's our city and the choice of destination. Period. We are a small town/city that cannot even keep a high-end luxury retailer like Holt Renfrew or Nordstrom's. I am sure there were quite a few rejections from available coaches with pedigree. I have accepted it as this is the fate of our small, sleepy Ottawa. Really, why in the past have we always hired no-name coaches? Because the big names could go to much nicer and fancier destinations.

 

[Xspyrit]

If we’re still losers, I hope Chabot and Tkachuk ask for trades. Batherson too

Would rather see them have success somewhere else, ala Mark Stone or Mika Zibanejad

Since we might be rebuilding again, we should use our cap space to retain on Karlsson (so a contender could have him at 6.0) and get another first

 

[Senovision]

I think everyone needs a reality check here on who the hell would want to come to Ottawa to coach an NHL team. That's the bottom line. I am sure Staois and lets not forget Poulin, spoke to or interviewed a few candidates, but in the end, it's our city and the choice of destination. Period. We are a small town/city that cannot even keep a high-end luxury retailer like Holt Renfrew or Nordstrom's. I am sure there were quite a few rejections from available coaches with pedigree. I have accepted it as this is the fate of our small, sleepy Ottawa. Really, why in the past have we always hired no-name coaches? Because the big names could go to much nicer and fancier destinations.

I think you nailed it, not many if any coaches with pedigree would want to come to Ottawa.

 

[Rodzilla]

I keep reading coaches don’t wanna come here when Julien literally just said he’d like the job and insiders kept saying Evason was intrigued by it too.

Every time there’s a below average move made here people always end up trying to spin it into positive, I mean I get it what else can we do? But at some point its okay to stop being fine with mediocrity too IMO

 

[Tuna99]

I think a big thing with Travis Green is that he is a statement to winning (he did it against us in uniform and he talks like he expects to win) - and taking the next step to be the type of team in Green’s image of jerkiness is what we want but probably we are afraid to admit because it’s the hardest way to play.

I’m more worried about Green showing us our players aren’t the real deal and are soft instead of him failing as a coach. I wonder he sets the bar high and the players fail to achieve it - there was a comfort in DJs promise of the future and not being worried about he horrid hockey being played and to only judge the players for what they’ll be at 28-29 years old instead of the crap hockey they were currently playing.

It’s real now, we need to win NOW. That’s scary. We may faceplant, we may have to break up the team, we may need a new tarp job in the 300s

That being said - I still want to punch Travis Green in the back of the knee and drop a flying elbow on him.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Just keep this thread open

 

[chipsens]

IMO looks like bait-and-switch. Head fake w loser Green, then come back w "their Hamilton bud" Gruden.

Meanwhile, Laffs get kick-ass Gerard Gallant after Keefe is booted. Another Islander like assistant coach Walrus MacLean. Better yet, why not just bring back Paul MacLean when Leafs clean house?!

With Green we would get MORE "stability", like ++yrs of DJ

 

[Micklebot]

Frankie Corrado very positive on Green this morning, some good info there.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Guys it’s okay AJ Jakubec says when New England hired Belicheck, patriots fans hated that too. And he went on to become the greatest football coach ever.

He goes on to say that that probably won’t happen with Green BUT….

Just if you want to hear some hard hitting analysis from team1200

Frankie Corrado very positive on Green this morning, some good info there.

Well I doubt they would have brought on someone who was just going to tear him to shreds

 

[jbeck5]

Never said you weren't.

Just funny to me how easy it is to just shit on every move a franchise makes because there is literally no downside.

Either you are "right" and something bad happens which you can waive around like a flag, or you are wrong and get to cheer with everyone else.

It's honestly the best strategy. So much easier as a fan to shit on the team and be right 95% of the time...and then when they win, you're super happy...so it's a win win.

Why wouldn't anyone follow this strategy is beyond me. Especially after nearly a decade of disappointment.

 

[h2]

Every time there’s a below average move made here people always end up trying to spin it into positive, I mean I get it what else can we do? But at some point its okay to stop being fine with mediocrity too IMO

This 1000%

 

[jbeck5]

Honestly, I haven't disliked a coach hire this much in the 20 years of following this team

Same. He was a piece of shit human as a player in my opinion...why would that change? Don't want his rat mentality around the team at all.


I've never been pissed at a coach hiring until now. I've been disappointed or underwhelmed...but angry? Nope. Not until today.

What a sad day for the Ottawa Senators.

 

[Micklebot]

Well I doubt they would have brought on someone who was just going to tear him to shreds

The definitely should have brought in some anonymous HF nucks fans rather than someone who played for him, we'd have gotten much better insight.

 

[chipsens]

Keeping Jacques behind the bench (if necessary, on a ventilator, in wheelchair ️) is a better coaching option. Prove me wrong.

 

[Micklebot]

TSN posted the interview for anyone that missed it

Corrado: Travis Green is exactly the coach young players need

NHL analyst Frank Corrado on playing under Travis Green, accountability won't be an issue, how Travis Green likes to play and Green doesn't always say what players want to hear, but they need to hear.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I keep reading coaches don’t wanna come here when Julien literally just said he’d like the job and insiders kept saying Evason was intrigued by it too.

Every time there’s a below average move made here people always end up trying to spin it into positive, I mean I get it what else can we do? But at some point its okay to stop being fine with mediocrity too IMO

When those people are wrong they almost NEVER come back and say “oh shit I was wrong that DID suck”. They just claim they were still right because they sided with the pros and didn’t have all the info.

Yea people that say a move is wrong have the opportunity to cheer the team on when if the move goes right. But at least they don’t sit on the fence and claim they were correct either way

The definitely should have brought in some anonymous HF nucks fans rather than someone who played for him, we'd have gotten much better insight.

That would have been more entertaining

 

[Micklebot]

When those people are wrong they almost NEVER come back and say “oh shit I was wrong that DID suck”. They just claim they were still right because they sided with the pros and didn’t have all the info.

Yea people that say a move is wrong have the opportunity to cheer the team on when if the move goes right. But at least they don’t sit on the fence and claim they were correct either way


That would have been more entertaining

Right, I'm sure everyone will be signing up to eat crow if Green finds success here...

 

[Micklebot]

That would have been more entertaining

Sure, if what you're looking for is doom scrolling, I was hoping for insight on how he runs a team, and Corrado provided a fair bit of it, did you listen to it yet? Some good stuff were what to expect.

 

[GCK]

So I’ll admit I’m disappointed with the hire, but the management group evaluated what type of coach they think the players need, so we now just have to watch and see if they were right.

 

[Flamingo]

Maybe the plan is for Alfie to be asssitant, and deck Green over the boards and take over as coach on opening night. Cue Alfie chants and good vibes going into the regular season.

 

[chipsens]

TSN posted the interview for anyone that missed it

Corrado: Travis Green is exactly the coach young players need

NHL analyst Frank Corrado on playing under Travis Green, accountability won't be an issue, how Travis Green likes to play and Green doesn't always say what players want to hear, but they need to hear.

www.tsn.ca

What did MJ say? I respect his take. Wish Simmer were still on TSN1200 to hear his thoughts on Green...or other coach options. TSN1200 is a shell of its former self.. mostly radio jockeys with little insight to add

More MJ & Cheryl Pounder please

 

[Micklebot]

So I’ll admit I’m disappointed with the hire, but the management group evaluated what type of coach they think the players need, so we now just have to watch and see if they were right.

For what it's worth, Corrado's description of how he runs things seems to fit what a lot of people say they want to a tee.

-Holds people accountable
-Extremely good at identifying how to motivate different types of players, personalizes his approach
-Very tough training camp
-Aggressive system that is hard to play against
-wants as much info as possible, uses adv stats to help inform decision
-good with young players


How will it pan out, idk, but between Corrado and Lalji, it doesn't seem to be doom and gloom. I'm interested to see who we get for assistants.

 

[Bjindaho]

For what it's worth, Corrado's description of how he runs things seems to fit what a lot of people say they want to a tee.

-Holds people accountable
-Extremely good at identifying how to motivate different types of players, personalizes his approach
-Very tough training camp
-Aggressive system that is hard to play against
-wants as much info as possible, uses adv stats to help inform decision
-good with young players


How will it pan out, idk, but between Corrado and Lalji, it doesn't seem to be doom and gloom. I'm interested to see who we get for assistants.

Something that is worth noting is that a lot of system's issues end up being more about assistant coaches than head coaches.

This could work, but the assistants are the key.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Being disappointed is ok. I was and still am.

Not giving Green a chance isn't.