Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by Den, Jan 8, 2006.
This is here because I am very sceptical of Malkin's claim. My vote went to Su-33
I only know Russia and here is my top 15 (Malkin upset me at WJC, but if you consider potential as a quality of a player he takes the cake):
N. BÃ¤ckstrÃ¶m is probably the finnish goalie and not the swedish rookie? Just to clarify things.
I voted for Ville Peltonen, but could have voted Malkin as well.
I have seen Sushinsky on EHT and now in ECC, I don't quite get it why people rank him over Malkin or even close, but naturally you have the right to think so
Oh yeah and Kai Nurminen does not belong in that list at all. Tony Salmelainen how ever could be mentioned. Nurminen is getting old, and has had a bad year this year. Salmelainen is probably the fastest player in europe and leads the finnish league in points, and he is young. Huge difference in those two, even though I am not much of a Salmelainen fan either.
Jere Karalahti should be on the list.
Where is Andreas Karlsson, Jonas Johnsson or Niklas Andersson?
They are definately up there.
It's up to you to come up with whatever you want. A poll can ot be made longer than 15 entries unfortunately. I spesifically listed older players, and those that I know and have seen - to me a good player is a proven player..
15 entries only
In fact it might make sense to make 3 or 5 separate polls for each position since this is obviously not enough
Yeah it's quite alright, all I am saying is Kai Nurminen is not on that level anymore. I could easily name 15 better players from finnish league alone, even more. Yes, older players are proven players, but some of them are already over the hill. And in my opinion Nurminen was never good enough for that list anyway. He was a great goal scorer because of his great wrister, but he never made team finland in world championships, mostly because he is a bit on the soft side.
They are definitly better than BÃ¤ckstrÃ¶m and Kahnberg anyway. But I'll say that Kenny JÃ¶nsson is the best player currently in Sweden even if he's not playing in the SEL.
I had to put at least one goalie... And being under the impression of ECC...What is Jonsson doing in the second division?
I think they meant these players are better than the swedish rookie forward N. BÃ¤ckstrÃ¶m, not the finnish goalie. Because they are not better than him, but better than the rookie.
Uh. Sorry. I thought you meant the other BÃ¤ckstrÃ¶m. JÃ¶nsson is playing for his home town club.
I was trying to put them in order of nationality initially, but stopped doing that by the end...
Allright, I admit this poll is very-very thin on Swedes Sorry guys, got carried away with the Czechs
My vote would be for Karpat's Petr Tenkrat.
He didn't show up in Khimik at all, and that's where I saw him at length, that's why I ommited him
Kai Nurminen did participate in three international tournaments:
World Champ. 1996.........6.4+2=6
World Cup 1996..............2.0+1=1
World Champ. 1997.........6.3+0=3
He actually did quite well...but on the other hand, Finland failed to win anything whenever he was around. And I deifinitely agree that he shouldn't be mentioned in this type of thread anymore.
Edit: Petteri Nummelin on the other hand might still be a worthy candidate.
My vote went for Metropolit, but I think Malking is the best.
Kenny Jonsson Jere Karalahti
Maxim Sushinsky Evgeny Malkin Jorgen Jonsson
Oh yeah my bad, I just remember when Nurminen was not selected after winning the goal scoring title of finnish league, and has not been selected ever since.
And yes, Nummelin deserves a mention for sure. Best offensive defenseman in europe, no doubt.