Speculation: The All-Encompassing Leafs Thread - is this it for the Core 4?

[LuLover96]

Title says it all. What’s next for the core 4? Do they run it back for the 35th time? Are Shanny/Keefe done?

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[Todd1a]

https://x.com/lucielou08/status/1787139753386680746?s=46

 

[Bond]

Hockey trade for Marner or Tavares is their best bet

 

[Todd1a]

Move marner or Tavares

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Tavares is immoveable. Leafs management won't even bother trying.

Captain John will be a Leaf.

 

[LuLover96]

Tavares is immoveable. Leafs management won't even bother trying.

Captain John will be a Leaf.

His buyout is really friendly, I wonder if they go that route

EDIT: made a mistake and was wrong with this, it’s the opposite.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

His buyout is really friendly, I wonder if they go that route

Huh? His buyout is like 10M to the cap.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Yes the honeymoon is over. Everyone can now relax.

 

[Heldig]

Hockey trade for Marner or Tavares is their best bet

HOW do you do a hockey trade for Marner?

MASSIVE salary on a one year term with complete control over the destination and an increasingly horrid reputation to boot. What GM is going to risk it?

 

[Empoleon8771]

His buyout is really friendly, I wonder if they go that route

Uh, it's a $11 million dead cap hit for next year

 

[Beerz]

Probably trade Marner and sign Victor Olofsson in free agency

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

If the Pens resign Crosby.

How about Karlsson for Marner. Pens then flip Marner at the deadline next year if they're out of playoff picture.

 

[sansabri]

gonna have to suck it up for another year cuz Tavares has an nmc

 

[Juxtaposer]

The trouble with trying to move Marner is that there are so many conditions that would need to be filled to complete a trade.

The trading team would have to see themselves as a clear-cut playoff team with a Marner addition—it makes no sense for a non-playoff team to acquire Marner because he’s a UFA in a year, unless he’s coming for cheap and they think they can flip him for more at the deadline. But if the trading team is a playoff team, then they probably aren’t trying to move now-assets to acquire him. So is Toronto okay with taking futures? Then the trading team, which is probably tight against the cap because they’re trying to compete, would have to find a way to make the money work, which would likely involve Toronto paying a third team to retain or taking back significant cap dumps, which doesn’t end up helping their situation. And lastly, Marner would have to agree to waive his NMC for trading team.

I just don’t see it happening.

 

[hurdemz]

Everyone saying get rid of Tavares and marner. NMC aside.. who we getting to replace the points? I get wanting more playoff proven guys, but we still gotta make the playoffs first. The pre nylander days were dark ones, so I hope we don't go back to that.

 

[Speedtrials]

Matthews and Nylander are studs. I would just let Tavares play out the last year, and trade Marner for depth pieces and cap space. Bring in a new voice from behind the bench, and go from there.

 

[TMLegend]

Marner is gone. Tavares will probably walk as an UFA the following summer.

Unlike the other Leafs highly paid forwards, Marner is openly aware of the criticism he gets in the media and amongst the fans. He'll help facilitate a trade this summer when he's asked to waive his NMC.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

It doesn't get any lower pressure/lower stakes than Anaheim, and I'd be happy to have Marner "disappear" in the playoffs because that means we've made it to playoffs lol.

I just wouldn't want to pay an arm and a leg for it... I think I'd rather just wait the final year and try to grab him as a UFA.

 

[trellaine201]

With basically three total picks within the first three rounds in the next three years we look bleak. Trade a bunch for picks.

 

[Heldig]

With basically three total picks within the first three rounds in the next three years we look bleak. Trade a bunch for picks.

WOW. Utah have 20.

 

[Rec T]

It doesn't get any lower pressure/lower stakes than Anaheim, and I'd be happy to have Marner "disappear" in the playoffs because that means we've made it to playoffs lol.

I just wouldn't want to pay an arm and a leg for it... I think I'd rather just wait the final year and try to grab him as a UFA.

Absolutely not. He's more than likely going to want/demand a raise over his already silly $11million. Even if Anaheim was willing to pay that, it would destroy all the upcoming big contracts that they are going to have to negotiate over the next few years ... "He's making 'x' and barely doing 'y'. I'm doing at least that much if not more & you're only offering me 66% of his contract. Fark that, I'm going to walk as a UFA then...". It could possibly bring about the same issue that Toronto has right now - a few really highly paid players and trying to piecemeal a team around them.

'If' he was willing to take a more realistic salary for what he brings/doesn't bring to the ice ... maybe. However I can't see him willing to cut his salary if he can find a team dumb/desperate enough to pay it. Then too there's the whole 'kinda vanishes when the playoffs start' vibe/attitude that I wouldn't want being passed along to his new teammates either.

 

[Golden_Jet]

His buyout is really friendly, I wonder if they go that route

Dollar wise sure, not cap hit.

 

[Golden_Jet]

With basically three total picks within the first three rounds in the next three years we look bleak. Trade a bunch for picks.

Or 4 total picks in the first 4 rounds over the next 3 years

 

[DFF]

HOW do you do a hockey trade for Marner?

MASSIVE salary on a one year term with complete control over the destination and an increasingly horrid reputation to boot. What GM is going to risk it?

With extension

 

[Heldig]

With extension

And what does THAT look like?

I would be furious if "my team" paid Marner $90+ million over 8 years. And you know the Marner camp believe the little dancing fellow is worth that much.