Confirmed with Link: Tatar Re-Signs (4 years, $5.3 million)

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So...who is getting traded?

Even with Franzen's cap hit being removed, we would still be over after signing AA

Sproul, Coreau and Frk all probably hit waivers so that should be enough including Franzen and his $4 million to put us under the cap.

 

[KJoe88]

Nice. Still believe Tats can score 30G consistently.

 

[Reddwit]

Wow, 4 years? That is great term. Much prefer the 4 year term and the higher AAV than the 6-7 years and the lower AAV.

Now trade Sheahan.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Not the worst contract, especially the term where it seems like we got best of both worlds. Glad he wanted to stay on for awhile. Bit rich, but I guess that's market value these days.

Would love to see him take the next step and pot 35 this year.

 

[SirloinUB]

So...who is getting traded?

Even with Franzen's cap hit being removed, we would still be over after signing AA

Sproul and Franzen on IR gives them 1.5 million in capspace.

If further space is needed, Witkowski can be waived for another 750K of cap space.

They will be fine.

 

[Wood Stick]

There will be an injury/LTIR in camp/preseason as well. We're fine.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Great deal. All the overreactions in the other thread look even more silly now.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Okay but...why woukd he want to sign here? This team is at least five years from competing.

 

[Datsyukian Deke]

Just get AA signed, that's all I ask.

 

[Henkka]

Sproul and Franzen on IR gives them 1.5 million in capspace.

If further space is needed, Witkowski can be waived for another 750K of cap space.

They will be fine.

Holland said that Sproul is heatlhy for the season start. Some guys are not ready for the camp, but everybody (except Franzen) are ready for the season.

 

[Henkka]

Not the worst contract, especially the term where it seems like we got best of both worlds. Glad he wanted to stay on for awhile. Bit rich, but I guess that's market value these days.

Would love to see him take the next step and pot 35 this year.

Franzen caphit was 7.0% at the summer of 2009 (of 56.8M cap).

Tatar caphit is 7.0% of 2017 cap (75.0M).

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Wow I didn't think this was coming.

I really like the term, AAV seems fair. And unless he handed out a NTC for the whole thing, it seems like this contract is very movable if need be.

Credit to Holland on this one. Now it's up to you Tatar tots.


EDIT: Just saw this regarding NTC.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Since Tatar took Detroit to salary arbitration, Detroit will have a 48 hour window for a buy out. So if Holland buys someone out that should give us a little breathing room here.

 

[StargateSG1]

Wow I didn't think this was coming.

I really like the term, AAV seems fair. And unless he handed out a NTC for the whole thing, it seems like this contract is very movable if need be.

Credit to Holland on this one. Now it's up to you Tatar tots.

Apparently, he got an NTC, That's NTC # 10 on the team.

 

[Henkka]

Wow I didn't think this was coming.

I really like the term, AAV seems fair. And unless he handed out a NTC for the whole thing, it seems like this contract is very movable if need be.

Credit to Holland on this one. Now it's up to you Tatar tots.

This contract is built to be moved at 2021 deadline. Only 3.2M salary on that last season after the signing bonus deadline and still that 5.3M caphit.

Same kind of structure as at Daley contract.

 

[TheRatPoisoner]

Nice. Tatar's a blast to watch. Happy about this.

Nice. Still believe Tats can score 30G consistently.

Would definitely be a 30 goal scorer, in my opinion, if this team had centre depth and a blue line that could move the puck.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

This contract is built to be moved at 2021 deadline. Only 3.2M salary on that last season after the signing bonus deadline and still that 5.3M caphit.

Same kind of structure as at Daley contract.

Agreed. If the Wings are sellers they should be able to move him to a team loading up for a Cup run before the coming lockout.

 

[Wood Stick]

Nice. Tatar's a blast to watch. Happy about this.



Would definitely be a 30 goal scorer, in my opinion, if this team had centre depth and a blue line that could move the puck.

Tatar's PP goals have gone from 9 to 7 to 5 in recent years. His assists on there went from 10 to 8 to 3. He scored just find at even strength last season 20 goals. We need that PP goals to get back up and the assists. A decent PP, a healthier Tats, and that's potentially 30/25.

We need the PP to be in the top half.

 

[Flowah]

Franzen caphit was 7.0% at the summer of 2009 (of 56.8M cap).

Tatar caphit is 7.0% of 2017 cap (75.0M).

I think with context, Tatar's contract is cheaper. Franzen's was a cap circumventing monster and that contract is *still* in effect. Tatar is done in 4 years. I'm sure if Franzen's deal was 4-7 years during his mid 20's he'd have gotten a much bigger contract.

 

[Henkka]

I think with context, Tatar's contract is cheaper. Franzen's was a cap circumventing monster and that contract is *still* in effect. Tatar is done in 4 years. I'm sure if Franzen's deal was 4-7 years during his mid 20's he'd have gotten a much bigger contract.

Yep.

If I minimize that Mule contract for nowadays maximum, from 11 to 8 years, that would be 39.5M per 8 years = 4.9375M caphit.

 

[Flowah]

That's about 8.7% of the 2009 cap.

 

[HockeyinHD]

I think with context, Tatar's contract is cheaper. Franzen's was a cap circumventing monster and that contract is *still* in effect. Tatar is done in 4 years. I'm sure if Franzen's deal was 4-7 years during his mid 20's he'd have gotten a much bigger contract.

I agree with that. The thing that mystified me at the time of the Franzen deal was how high the first 7 years were. It was essentially a 7 year 35 mil deal under a 57 mil cap that the team tacked on circumvention years to bring down.

The worst 3 deals Holland has signed are, IMO, 1) Helm, 2) Franzen, 3) Howard. I haven't thought of or heard a rationale for them that makes sense.

The Tatar deal seems fine. It protects his value as an asset while not over-emphasizing his role on the team. The NTC seems conditional enough to not present many difficulties if the org decides to move him in a few years.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I agree with that. The thing that mystified me at the time of the Franzen deal was how high the first 7 years were. It was essentially a 7 year 35 mil deal under a 57 mil cap that the team tacked on circumvention years to bring down.

The worst 3 deals Holland has signed are, IMO, 1) Helm, 2) Franzen, 3) Howard. I haven't thought of or heard a rationale for them that makes sense.

The Tatar deal seems fine. It protects his value as an asset while not over-emphasizing his role on the team. The NTC seems conditional enough to not present many difficulties if the org decides to move him in a few years.

Franzen's deal absolutely made sense. It's only bad because the league retro-actively punished legal contracts, which was complete BS. At the time we didn't know his career would be cut so short either.

Maybe you forget what a monster Mule was.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

This is a pretty good contract.

I would like to move Nyquist or Tatar soon though.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

I'm gonna say an AA signing will come shortly. Tatar was really the only thing holding that up.