Player Discussion Tanner Glass

[Inferno]

Let me solve the Tanner Glass situation in like 3 seconds...ready?

Rangers dont trade Emerson Etem.

Rangers dont play Tanner Glass.

Rangers get better by playing Etem instead of Glass.

Problem solved.

 

[True Blue]

I like how Rick Nash is half the player he used to be after a bad regular season where he was one of the few players that actually showed up and played well in the playoffs. But because the team as a whole was a disaster it doesn't matter.

It matters. He FINALY had a decent post season. Way to go Rick. Should we examine his postseason history? The ones in which his play was among the biggest reasons as to why the Rangers were either knocked out of the playoffs or came up short against the Kings?

 

[True Blue]

Let me solve the Tanner Glass situation in like 3 seconds...ready?

Rangers dont trade Emerson Etem.

Rangers dont play Tanner Glass.

Rangers get better by playing Etem instead of Glass.

Problem solved.

You are kidding, right? Etem? He was absolutely useless on the ice. This is the player who would have materially impacted the games more than Glass?

 

[NYRFAN218]

It matters. He FINALY had a decent post season. Way to go Rick. Should we examine his postseason history? The ones in which his play was among the biggest reasons as to why the Rangers were either knocked out of the playoffs or came up short against the Kings?

Well everyone was adamant before the season that it didn't matter what Nash did during the season as long as he came to play during the playoffs. He did. Now it's an issue? Or are we going to keep crucifying Nash for things that happened 2+ years ago?

 

[Inferno]

You are kidding, right? Etem? He was absolutely useless on the ice. This is the player who would have materially impacted the games more than Glass?

as a matter of fact...yes.

 

[Inferno]

Etem produces at a better rate and at half the salary.

Hes a MUCH MUCH MUCH better player than Glass.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

You are kidding, right? Etem? He was absolutely useless on the ice. This is the player who would have materially impacted the games more than Glass?

What the hell is "materially impact"? Just another phrase to make it seek as though Glass isn't a problem or detriment?

Literally any other player on the roster or in the system would be less bad than Glass. It isn't about "material impact", whatever the **** that is. It's the fact that a line witb Glass is objectively worse than a line without him, and it makes a difference, regardless of how little a difference it makes in reality or in your warped view.

 

[Inferno]

other than hitting and maybe being a really nice guy...theres nothing that Glass does better than Etem. Hes slower, hes worse defensively (shot supression), hes worse offensively (shots on goal), hes just...bad.

 

[Raspewtin]

I like how Rick Nash is half the player he used to be after a bad regular season where he was one of the few players that actually showed up and played well in the playoffs. But because the team as a whole was a disaster it doesn't matter.

Nothing that whole special contingent of this board says really surprises me anymore.

You are kidding, right? Etem? He was absolutely useless on the ice. This is the player who would have materially impacted the games more than Glass?

Lmfao whatever "useless" Etem was beats the **** out of what Glass was/is.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Lmfao whatever "useless" Etem was beats the **** out of what Glass was/is.

I can certainly see how someone like you, with a myopic view of what a player should be, feels this way.

The reality is that Etem is a failed top 9 player and Glass is a failed 4th line player. It does not mean that someone like Etem can easily slot into the 4th line as a result. Very different jobs/expectations.

 

[silverfish]

I can certainly see how someone like you, with a myopic view of what a player should be, feels this way.

The reality is that Etem is a failed top 9 player and Glass is a failed 4th line player. It does not mean that someone like Etem can easily slot into the 4th line as a result. Very different jobs/expectations.

It is everyone's job on the ice to keep the puck out of their own zone, and in the oppositions zone.

Etem is better than Glass at that. 97% of the league is better than Glass at that.

 

[Raspewtin]

I can certainly see how someone like you, with a myopic view of what a player should be, feels this way.

The reality is that Etem is a failed top 9 player and Glass is a failed 4th line player. It does not mean that someone like Etem can easily slot into the 4th line as a result. Very different jobs/expectations.

No but it does mean that Etem is still more skilled and will produce better results than Glass by virtue of the fact that Glass isn't an NHL player but thanks for trying.

 

[SA16]

Comes back to what I said the other day. The problem is the thought that a 4th liner needs to be a grinder, responsible defensively, and any offense is a bonus. That's an archaic thought process. The 4th line is nothing different than the other 3 lines except the players are slightly worse. They can still shoot, they can still pass, they can still possess the puck they just won't be as good at is as the other guys. They don't need to be any more physical or better defensively. They're not going to be played in key defensive spots anyway. The 4th line is also a spot you can keep a specialist if you have one provided he is at least adequate at 5v5. By specialist I mean a guy who is great on faceoffs if you need someone to take a big one or a guy who is great in the shootout.

 

[Thirty One]

Then start from the bottom up for the transition. Who sharpens the skates these days?

If the person who sharpens skates is as bad at his job as Glass is at his, he should absolutely be replaced, and sooner better than later.

 

[True Blue]

I can certainly see how someone like you, with a myopic view of what a player should be, feels this way.

The reality is that Etem is a failed top 9 player and Glass is a failed 4th line player. It does not mean that someone like Etem can easily slot into the 4th line as a result. Very different jobs/expectations.

Exactly. Being a failure of a top 9 forward, does not mean automatic success as a 4th liner.

 

[True Blue]

Well everyone was adamant before the season that it didn't matter what Nash did during the season as long as he came to play during the playoffs. He did. Now it's an issue? Or are we going to keep crucifying Nash for things that happened 2+ years ago?

First of all, we should continue this in the Rick Nash trade. Second of all, yes, he is still getting crucified for his past failures. You know why? Because what he did in the Stanley Cup finals or the Conference Finals (and the road leading up to those runs) to NOT help his team, matters A LOT more than what he has done when his team went out without as much as a whimper in 5 games this year.

 

[True Blue]

What the hell is "materially impact"? Just another phrase to make it seek as though Glass isn't a problem or detriment?

How many more wins do the Rangers have if you would have replaced Glass with Lindberg?

 

[True Blue]

as a matter of fact...yes.

Ok. So let me know in which way he would impact a game? How many games do you believe that Glass had a hand in loosing, that Etem would turn around 180 degrees and have a hand in winning?

 

[TheTakedown]

Exactly. Being a failure of a top 9 forward, does not mean automatic success as a 4th liner.

but you have a much better chance at becoming a 4th liner compared to an AHL scrub.

 

[Off Sides]

If the person who sharpens skates is as bad at his job as Glass is at his, he should absolutely be replaced, and sooner better than later.

That depends, if the skates are only 90% sharp, does replacing him with a guy who can get them 95% sharp make a material difference?



Just having some fun True Blue, no hard feelings I hope

If you are really interested in my opinion ( I wouldn't be unless you are bored) here are the posts I made throughout this thread that explain it better than I feel like delving into anymore.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=116559123&postcount=55

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=116721895&postcount=121

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=116731391&postcount=168

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=116766803&postcount=201

 

[gorangers0525]

90% of Hartford would be better than Glass and our prospect pool is awful.

 

[Raspewtin]

Exactly. Being a failure of a top 9 forward, does not mean automatic success as a 4th liner.

Are you being purposely obtuse at this point?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You are kidding, right? Etem? He was absolutely useless on the ice. This is the player who would have materially impacted the games more than Glass?

29 GMs did not think Glass was good enough to claim him off waivers. Etem was acquired by Vancouver for Jensen + a 6th round pick.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

So if the 12th forward slot has such negligible effect on the outcome of the game, why don't we just pay someone league minimum to not have a "material impact", instead of paying Glass 1.45?

Even if he doesn't impact our team negatively on the ice (which he most certainly does) we could be paying for a better player at less than half the price.

stop trying to defend this clown

Either way you slice it, Tanner Glass is a liability.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

So if the 12th forward slot has such negligible effect on the outcome of the game, why don't we just pay someone league minimum to not have a "material impact", instead of paying Glass 1.45?

Even if he doesn't impact our team negatively on the ice (which he most certainly does) we could be paying for a better player at less than half the price.

stop trying to defend this clown

Either way you slice it, Tanner Glass is a liability.

So now it's Glass' fault that some GM gave him a bad contract?