NBA Suns hiring Frank Vogel

[MMC]

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[Terry Yake]

interesting hire

are KD/paul/booker going to be willing focus more on defense? because if not, it'll be a disaster. vogel's a great coach when he can get his guys to buy in to his defense-first philosophy. just not sure if those guys will be willing to do so

 

[GKJ]

Budenholzer gonna wait out until next season

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Durant is organizing palace coup against another coach.



Correct me if I am wrong but was it not Durant who forced organization to fire Williams last summer?

Also, Suns management set him up to fail


At this point Vogel should be hoping he gets fired and out of this horrible situation

 

[Terry Yake]

interesting hire

are KD/paul/booker going to be willing focus more on defense? because if not, it'll be a disaster. vogel's a great coach when he can get his guys to buy in to his defense-first philosophy. just not sure if those guys will be willing to do so

well, it was a disaster

 

[Power Man]

Both the FO and Vogel areto blame, but the FO takes the cake

What were they thinking? 3 scorers? yeah that's toooootally balanced, and on top of that they are stuck with big contracts

Oh yeah and they are f***ed in the draft for the next 5 years

Not excusing Vogel though; KD-Book-Beal taking turns on iso offense instead of movement is a recipe for disaster, and there were too many midrange shots

 

[Jack Straw]

The Suns had a good young team that played the right way. They got to the finals against the Bucks, then they had a few years with less success so they decided to blow it up and chase stars. Just terrible roster management.

 

[GKJ]

They gonna get another shot at Budenholzer

 

[HisIceness]

No team with championship aspirations should pursue Durant. Guy got his rings and checked out.

 

[Power Man]

They gonna get another shot at Budenholzer

If Bud has any sense, he won't go there

I'm hoping he will be Pop' successor tbh; he did an amazing job in San Antonio

 

[Voight]

Both the FO and Vogel areto blame, but the FO takes the cake

What were they thinking? 3 scorers? yeah that's toooootally balanced, and on top of that they are stuck with big contracts

Oh yeah and they are f***ed in the draft for the next 5 years

Not excusing Vogel though; KD-Book-Beal taking turns on iso offense instead of movement is a recipe for disaster, and there were too many midrange shots

That's what happens when you have guys like James Jones running basketball ops. You need to have a seasoned executive in situations like this.

 

[Power Man]

That's what happens when you have guys like James Jones running basketball ops. You need to have a seasoned executive in situations like this.

yep
And ownership too

 

[Desert Ice 11]

That's what happens when you have guys like James Jones running basketball ops. You need to have a seasoned executive in situations like this.

What drives me nuts is Matty Ish think there is no value in draft picks. Teams will be getting younger and faster while the suns shovel out dollars to star players looking for a place to get paid and end their career. I don't think we will get past the 1st round with building a team like that.

The owner needs to step away from team building and hire a proven GM.

 

[Voight]

What drives me nuts is Matty Ish think there is no value in draft picks. Teams will be getting younger and faster while the suns shovel out dollars to star players looking for a place to get paid and end their career. I don't think we will get past the 1st round with building a team like that.

The owner needs to step away from team building and hire a proven GM.

That's exactly how you end up with a country club atmosphere (not saying that's the Suns right now, but could be in the future).

Ishbia seems like a very hands on owner and while that's his right, history tells us that would do more bad than good.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

That's exactly how you end up with a country club atmosphere (not saying that's the Suns right now, but could be in the future).

Ishbia seems like a very hands on owner and while that's his right, history tells us that would do more bad than good.

I was sour about the KD trade because Bridges is on the rise but I could look past it. Really disliked the Bradly Beal trade because I feel they pulled the trigger on that too quickly. Should have help where they were and seen how it played out then looked to shop at the dead line. The only trade I really liked was shipping "Dominayton" to Portland.