Stanley Cup Playoffs 2014-2015 IV Discussion, picks, and predictions/Final

[Devils Dominion]

Remember this from '95?
Fun times.
Crowd was intense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY0mgGJ-2BI

 

[NJDevs26]

I'm the biggest Devils Richter fan there is, I'm okay with putting Lundqvist over him though.

People make the argument of Richter over Lundqvist because of Richter being clutch and a couple years ago I'd have bought it but that's silly at this point given Lundqvist's record in elimination games. I don't know what Richter's is but I don't think he had a 15-4 stretch or whatever it is now over the last few years. Is that not the definition of needing a guy to win one game for you?

 

[217 Forever]

People make the argument of Richter over Lundqvist because of Richter being clutch and a couple years ago I'd have bought it but that's silly at this point given Lundqvist's record in elimination games. I don't know what Richter's is but I don't think he had a 15-4 stretch or whatever it is now over the last few years. Is that not the definition of needing a guy to win one game for you?

Not necessarily. See my post on the previous page. Lundqvist has never won a playoff series against a superior team in my view anyway. A goalie of his "stature" should have stolen one somewhere along the line I would think. He let in two bad game-winning goals vs. Tampa in my mind.

 

[NJDevs26]

Not necessarily. See my post on the previous page. Lundqvist has never won a playoff series against a superior team in my view anyway. A goalie of his "stature" should have stolen one somewhere along the line I would think. He let in two bad game-winning goals vs. Tampa in my mind.

Did Richter? The Rangers had the best team in '94, much better than any of Henry's teams. What great upset did Richter engineer, beating an offensively challenged Devils team in '97 before getting racked by Philly?

Henry also hasn't lost to teams worse than his either for the most part, where were they upset by a clearly inferior team in the postseason? This year might have been a little bit of a surprise because of home ice but Tampa had more 1-18 talent. If Tampa had home ice they would have been favored imo

 

[217 Forever]

Did Richter? The Rangers had the best team in '94, much better than any of Henry's teams. What great upset did Richter engineer, beating an offensively challenged Devils team in '97 before getting racked by Philly?

Henry also hasn't lost to teams worse than his either for the most part, where were they upset by a clearly inferior team in the postseason? This year might have been a little bit of a surprise because of home ice but Tampa had more 1-18 talent. If Tampa had home ice they would have been favored imo

I gamble on hockey and the Rangers and Blackhawks were the consistent favorites for several months so the home ice part I don't think you're correct about.

Regardless, I don't know how else to say it other than there have been few goalies that I felt like it was possible to play all night and never score on if they were at their best, and Richter for a brief time was in that category to me. I have never felt that way about Lundqvist, except maybe in 2012 but that was more due to the system that Torts had them playing.

 

[The Devil In I]

Did Richter? The Rangers had the best team in '94, much better than any of Henry's teams. What great upset did Richter engineer, beating an offensively challenged Devils team in '97 before getting racked by Philly?

Henry also hasn't lost to teams worse than his either for the most part, where were they upset by a clearly inferior team in the postseason? This year might have been a little bit of a surprise because of home ice but Tampa had more 1-18 talent. If Tampa had home ice they would have been favored imo

Well... he was outplayed by a 41-42 year old Brodeur on, at that point, the biggest stage of his career as the #1 seed.

 

[Emperoreddy]

You take the better player. You can't just assume that a guy is going to have that one magic game when the other guy is the discussion has been consistently a better player.

 

[217 Forever]

Well... he was outplayed by a 41-42 year old Brodeur on, at that point, the biggest stage of his career as the #1 seed.

I should have mentioned that. I don't know if we had an inferior roster but we were definitely the underdog that series.

I'll take Lundqvist in the regular season and Richter for the playoffs. It's a playoff sport and I want guys who can raise the level of their play dramatically (i.e. winners).

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I should have mentioned that. I don't know if we had an inferior roster but we were definitely the underdog that series.

I'll take Lundqvist in the regular season and Richter for the playoffs. It's a playoff sport and I want guys who can raise the level of their play dramatically (i.e. winners).

I don't know how you maintain that Lundqvist doesn't "raise the level of play" for the playoffs.

He made it easy for you -- just look at his stellar numbers.

 

[217 Forever]

I don't know how you maintain that Lundqvist doesn't "raise the level of play" for the playoffs.

He made it easy for you -- just look at his stellar numbers.

Not going to have this discussion again, but someone else (a HL supporter) already gave these stats:

Lundqvist:
Regular - .921 / 2.26
Playoffs - .923 / 2.22

I see no difference.

 

[Devils Dominion]

So much debate over a few Rags goalies.

Closet Rags fans!

 

[217 Forever]

So much debate over a few Rags goalies.

Closet Rags fans!

Actually I hate them as much as everyone else. I'm just on a quest to get everyone to agree that while he is a very good goalie, in the grand scheme of things he's still overrated. I'm having mixed success

 

[Devils Dominion]

Actually I hate them as much as everyone else. I'm just on a quest to get everyone to agree that while he is a very good goalie, in the grand scheme of things he's still overrated. I'm having mixed success

Oh I know and am just ribbing you guys.

I've been labeled a Rags fan before just by giving them some credit.

 

[tr83]

So much debate over a few Rags goalies.

Closet Rags fans!

C'mon DD, you could write a novel about this Make sure to include Eddie Giacomin too

 

[Devilsgrl35]

Vasilevskiy just lead the Bolts onto the ice. Bishop isn't even dressed.

 

[sbresistor]

Bishop is one injury prone playoff guy

 

[R8Devs]

everytime you notice morrow a bad thing happens lol

 

[Devils090]

Callahan has been great, always hilarious to read rags fans killing him for being a "choker" yet they defend Nash.

 

[Bleedred]

Has Morrow retired yet?

 

[tr83]

That was a sick pass and goal

 

[NJD Kula]

Was like Elias to Sykora good

Loving that vasilievsky is in

Lets go boltiks

 

[tr83]

Morrow had a good shift. Blind squirrel...nut

 

[MadDevil]

Callahan has been great, always hilarious to read rags fans killing him for being a "choker" yet they defend Nash.

I will laugh hysterically if the Bolts end up winning the Cup with a big series from Callahan. But at least the Rangers got a good young player for him...oh wait.

 

[Tundra]

The hawk fans were so overconfident coming into this series. Hilarious to see this unfold. I'm not surprised. The lightning are deeper and younger.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Score here for my bracket, Hawks.